There have been multiple assassination attempts on DJT

Floyd Eye said:
No they didn't and in fact it is already the law. Another example of the inept government not even enforcing the laws already on the books while they keep pressing for more laws that will do absolutely nothing except shield lawmakers from criticism for their lack of meaningful action to stop criminals. The people stopping the mental health thing are the woke fuckers who don't want to stigmatize the mentally ill. I guess you have never filled out a 4473 ? It says right on the fucking form people that have been involuntarily committed or adjucated mentally deficient are "Prohibited persons". Do you think it's the NRA that kept the military from putting the psycho they kicked out on the list for the NICS system ?

At any rate the gnashing of teeth over what is statistically insignificant as far as crime goes is just retarded. Such a small amount of dead kids are the result of AR-15s that in the big picture it isn't even relevant.

Do you know what would actually stop these tragedies from occurring though ? What the NRA and most gun rights groups have been sayng forever. Make schools a hard target. We fucking protect banks and politicians with armed personnel but we just leave our kids totally unprotected. It's ridiculous.

And if you think banning AR-15s is going to be the magic button that stops "Mass shootings" you are delusional. We had an AWB in the 90s. It did absolutely nothing to the crime rate.

Did you know that rifles ( of ALL types, not just semi autos or AR-15s) are used in less than 1% of all gun crimes ? Literally more people are killed by hands and feet every year than by any type of long gun.

Worst of all though is the trying to legislate by emotion bullshit. Feel good shit that does nothing but infringe on honest people's rights. Trying to compromise with people that want you completely unarmed is retarded. We have tried the "Give a little bit" approach many times and it always results in anti-gun advocation for even more gun control. It's always just one more law that will fix everything right? High capacity magazine bans. Now red flag laws. They will never stop dreaming up new laws to try to foist on us in an attempt at a death by 1000 small cuts strategy of total disarmament of the citizenry. Why do you think they have allowed crime to flourish ? Letting criminals out of jail, defunding police departments, refusing to prosecute murderers, particularly in black on black urban crimes. They don't WANT to stop crime. If they did they wouldn't be going after law abiding citizen's rights would they ?


Most of us have absolutely had enough of their bullshit. You want to compromise with retarded leftists who don't give a fuck if an illegal alien rapes and kills your family members, then YOU go and destroy YOUR guns and leave the fucking rest of us out of your retarded bullshit.
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Fuck yes! These woke faggots make me sick!
 
Back to the basics: the general public having access to military grade weapons is very similar to giving your kid an 18 wheeler for his 16th birthday. No training or even useful advice, just fork over the money and wait for the results.
Want to make a bad situation worse? Hand over that legally purchased military grade rifle and 30 round mags to a kid with no proper upbringing and little common sense, thanks to his idiot parents.
It's a ridiculous state of affairs with seemingly no compromise. Sadly, things will keep going like they have been; another mental teen having a bad day, gets his semi auto rifle and a glock, heading out to shoot elementary children.
Have we reached a point where child victims outnumber wild game taken down with ARs?
 
84superchamp said:
Back to the basics: the general public having access to military grade weapons is very similar to giving your kid an 18 wheeler for his 16th birthday. No training or even useful advice, just fork over the money and wait for the results.
Want to make a bad situation worse? Hand over that legally purchased military grade rifle and 30 round mags to a kid with no proper upbringing and little common sense, thanks to his idiot parents.
It's a ridiculous state of affairs with seemingly no compromise. Sadly, things will keep going like they have been; another mental teen having a bad day, gets his semi auto rifle and a glock, heading out to shoot elementary children.
Have we reached a point where child victims outnumber wild game taken down with ARs?
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Would you give your kid an 18 wheeler and if you did, do you think he can get it started?

Is your driveway big enough?

Do you have that kind of money to waste?

What law would prevent you from doing it?
 
84superchamp said:
Back to the basics: the general public having access to military grade weapons is very similar to giving your kid an 18 wheeler for his 16th birthday. No training or even useful advice, just fork over the money and wait for the results.
Want to make a bad situation worse? Hand over that legally purchased military grade rifle and 30 round mags to a kid with no proper upbringing and little common sense, thanks to his idiot parents.
It's a ridiculous state of affairs with seemingly no compromise. Sadly, things will keep going like they have been; another mental teen having a bad day, gets his semi auto rifle and a glock, heading out to shoot elementary children.
Have we reached a point where child victims outnumber wild game taken down with ARs?
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Another piece of ridiculous, leftist gun grabbing bullshit. AR-15s are NOT military grade weapons.

Now you want to ban Glocks ? And I guess any other handgun that accepts more than a 10 round magazine ?

To answer your last question, not by a long shot. The number of child victims is very small. You need to kick your TV through your living room wall dude.

You have zero business calling yourself pro 2A. You clearly don't even understand what it says.

Next thing ya know you and CharvelDan will be having slumber parties. I just hope you do it in the People's republik of Illinois and not Missouri.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Another piece of ridiculous, leftist gun grabbing bullshit. AR-15s are NOT military grade weapons.

Now you want to ban Glocks ? And I guess any other handgun that accepts more than a 10 round magazine ?

To answer your last question, not by a long shot. The number of child victims is very small. You need to kick your TV through your living room wall dude.

You have zero business calling yourself pro 2A. You clearly don't even understand what it says.

Next thing ya know you and CharvelDan will be having slumber parties. I just hope you do it in the People's republik of Illinois and not Missouri.
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What he said 👆
 
Floyd Eye said:
Another piece of ridiculous, leftist gun grabbing bullshit. AR-15s are NOT military grade weapons.

Now you want to ban Glocks ? And I guess any other handgun that accepts more than a 10 round magazine ?

To answer your last question, not by a long shot. The number of child victims is very small. You need to kick your TV through your living room wall dude.

You have zero business calling yourself pro 2A. You clearly don't even understand what it says.

Next thing ya know you and CharvelDan will be having slumber parties. I just hope you do it in the People's republik of Illinois and not Missouri.
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You're much more of a dimwit than I thought, it just took me a few months to find out. Non compromising people eventually get their dumb asses handed to them....i hope you're not in charge of anything important.
 
84superchamp said:
You're much more of a dimwit than I thought, it just took me a few months to find out. Non compromising people eventually get their dumb asses handed to them....i hope you're not in charge of anything important.
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Oh and you handed my dumb ass to me? 🤣🤣

Why don’t you take a few history classes and quit watching your fucking TV and then get back to me genius.
 
Floyd Eye said:
Oh and you handed my dumb ass to me? 🤣🤣

Why don’t you take a few history classes and quit watching your fucking TV and then get back to me genius.
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84superchamp said:
You're much more of a dimwit than I thought, it just took me a few months to find out. Non compromising people eventually get their dumb asses handed to them....i hope you're not in charge of anything important.
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Ok Ladies... that's enough lol
 
84superchamp said:
Addressing just one aspect of your post; a well-armed population area, I always think of Texas as a prime example. One of the worst school shootings took place there, I'm sure most of those in that area were gun owners but it made no difference when the (inept) police department took over the situation.
And yes, mental health evaluation should be a part of gun ownership but IIRC, the NRA also helped block that aspect of proposed gun laws.
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The NRA moved to block that legislation because it targeted vets across the board and decided if you have had any version of PTSD you should not be allowed access to a weapon and any weapons you already own should be confiscated. It was absolutely the right thing to do. No mass school shooting, or mass murder was ever perpetrated by a vet, so why drop the hammer on the very guys who fought for the freedoms we mean to keep?
It was terribly flawed legislation from the moment it was introduced and the NRA did the right thing.
The media framed the entire argument about it to make it appear the NRA wanted crazy people to have guns. Simple as that..
No lawful gun owners want ANY crazy people to have the ability to potentially compromise our 2nd Amendment rights by killing innocents
 
JTyson said:
The NRA moved to block that legislation because it targeted vets across the board and decided if you have had any version of PTSD you should not be allowed access to a weapon and any weapons you already own should be confiscated. It was absolutely the right thing to do. No mass school shooting, or mass murder was ever perpetrated by a vet, so why drop the hammer on the very guys who fought for the freedoms we mean to keep?
It was terribly flawed legislation from the moment it was introduced and the NRA did the right thing.
The media framed the entire argument about it to make it appear the NRA wanted crazy people to have guns. Simple as that..
No lawful gun owners want ANY crazy people to have the ability to potentially compromise our 2nd Amendment rights by killing innocents
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Well said my man 👊
 
84superchamp said:
You're much more of a dimwit than I thought, it just took me a few months to find out. Non compromising people eventually get their dumb asses handed to them....i hope you're not in charge of anything important.
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Actually he’s spot on, the frustration you hear in his post’s stem from the fact that lawful gun owners are done with being told things we know are not accurate that come from people who never take any time to check the validity of statements made by people who have lied constantly and use people uneducated on the subject to push a false narrative. If the same people relied on the actual fact’s and data/stats (which by the way are out there for everyone to see) people would see right through it and realize they have to be pushing this narrative to achieve the very thing they act like and flat out state they are not trying to achieve at all.
This is probably the 20th time this very conversation has happened in OT and it’s the same exact thing every time.
Everytime…
And every time, the end result is lawful gun owners are told we are somehow at least partially responsible for dead children because we won’t compromise our rights.
We are done with that stupid shit.
The only grey area is how much difference it would make if they actually did their job and did every last thing in their power to make changes that would help stop the killing of those children in area’s still to this day, marked as “gun free zones”
Until we see movement by them to utilize all the things that would definitely help the matter before trying to stomp our Constitutional rights, we are done with any talk of compromise. Fuck them
 
MadAsAHatter said:
That's how much he's being paid each time he posts on RT.
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You can't say that here, mate.

The moderators are gonna "What do you mean by that?" the shit out of you now.

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