acceptance
Well-known member
What? Israel didn't kill its people, man, I guarantee that. It was a terror attack and around 1,200 people lost their lives.
What? Israel didn't kill its people, man, I guarantee that. It was a terror attack and around 1,200 people lost their lives.
I still don't get what you're trying to say...My point is unless The US declares war on Israel, no one will be rounding up Jews again anytime soon.
It's a fact. Where do you think they are getting their munitions from right now? They are american weapons.If you think the US not sending arms to Israel will kneecap Israel you’re out of your mind.
You're wrong. It's principled objection based on facts and evidence, not American or Israeli propaganda. There is a complaint lodge at the ICJ detailing the genocide, which the court has since deemed "Plausible" and ordered Israel to avert a genocide. You can read this yourself, or at least consider the evidence I present here. You have not linked one rebuttal or posted anything to substantiate your position ever since we started debating this.And you clearly have some deep seated hatred of Jews and Israel. What else can explain the fact that you will take the word of known, proven terrorists over the word of literally the entire Israeli nation.
Seems to me they’re all gonna fall in line with Trump. If they don’t you can be sure he will make his displeasure felt.My growing concerns are the RINO neocon GOP Senators screwing around with one of their own that will resist and reject the Trump agenda. If Scott doesn't become Senate majority leader, Trump needs to minimize the Senate, work with the House and call out the Senate leadership publicly.
Really kind of concerning when as soon as someone expresses a view over Israel's heavy handed approach, people tend to jump right to "hatred of Jews". Are they above all critique?My point is unless The US declares war on Israel, no one will be rounding up Jews again anytime soon.
If you think the US not sending arms to Israel will kneecap Israel you’re out of your mind.
And you clearly have some deep seated hatred of Jews and Israel. What else can explain the fact that you will take the word of known, proven terrorists over the word of literally the entire Israeli nation.
Jesus dude. Quit playing stupid. Did you not say something to the effect of “ don’t cry when it happens to the Jews “? It’s not gonna happen to the Jews. They didn’t pick a fight with someone who can kick their ass.I still don't get what you're trying to say...
It's a fact. Where do you think they are getting their munitions from right now? They are american weapons.
You're wrong. It's principled objection based on facts and evidence, not American or Israeli propaganda. There is a claim at the ICJ detailing the complaint of genocide, which the court has since deemed "Plausible" and ordered Israel to avert a genocide. You can read this yourself, or at least consider the evidence I present here. You have not linked one rebuttal or posted anything to substantiate your position ever since we started debating this.
I was calling out your double standard, not calling for it.Jesus dude. Quit playing stupid. Did you not say something to the effect of “ don’t cry when it happens to the Jews “? It’s not gonna happen to the Jews. They didn’t pick a fight with someone who can kick their ass.
It's weird to me, because you insist on making it personal. You're making claims that you can't substantiate. I provide evidence backing what I say and then you have a hissy fit and call me a "Jew hater" which is really stupid, no different than progressives saying you hate blacks if you disagree with Obama.You really should find yourself some kind of hobby. You spend an inordinate amount of time arguing here, a lot of which can’t possibly even be about anything you give a fuck about. How much time have you wasted arguing there’s no proof the earth is a sphere ?
You are surely allowed to believe what you want about the Israeli issue. So am I. I personally am not interested in debating it with you because it’s getting really hard for me to do it without resorting to calling you a Jew hater. Which I am trying hard not to do. So agree to disagree dude.
No but it’s pretty fucking rich to constantly rip on them when they were the ones who were attacked. Which is what always happens. Some shitbags backed by Iran fire missiles into Tel Aviv and when Israel hits back harder the world liberals start crying about it. Novel idea, don’t fire rockets at a country that can literally wipe you off the map if they want to.Really kind of concerning when as soon as someone expresses a view over Israel's heavy handed approach, people tend to jump right to "hatred of Jews". Are they above all critique?
Those videos and shit you post are not evidence dude.I was calling out your double standard, not calling for it.
It's weird to me, because you insist on making it personal. You're making claims that you can't substantiate. I provide evidence backing what I say and then you have a hissy fit and call me a "Jew hater" which is really stupid, no different than progressives saying you hate blacks if you disagree with Obama.
If we cut off aid and arms to them they would have never existed to begin with. They'd still be in a real pickle if it happened today in a best case situation.If you think the US not sending arms to Israel will kneecap Israel you’re out of your mind.
What did they do when no one would sell them any fighter jets ? Do you know ?If we cut off aid and arms to them they would have never existed to begin with. They'd still be in a real pickle if it happened today in a best case situation.
It's so nuanced. I have Jewish friends, and most of them are not pleased with what is going on. In fact, some of them are outraged. A predominate talking point that I hear is "You must separate the Israeli Government views from the Jewish people." This is the same of almost any government. They are not a monolithic hivemind by any means as a people, and when "anti-semetic" or "jew haters" so easily get tossed around as accusations, it takes away any meaning or power of those terms.No but it’s pretty fucking rich to constantly rip on them when they were the ones who were attacked. Which is what always happens. Some shitbags backed by Iran fire missiles into Tel Aviv and when Israel hits back harder the world liberals start crying about it. Novel idea, don’t fire rockets at a country that can literally wipe you off the map if they want to.
Couldn't say. I know prior to being a nation they built underground ammo manufacturing labs and such.What did they do when no one would sell them any fighter jets ? Do you know ?
The Israelis have been literally fighting to exist since the minute the nation was created.It's so nuanced. I have Jewish friends, and most of them are not pleased with what is going on. In fact, some of them are outraged. A predominate talking point that I hear is "You must separate the Israeli Government from the Jewish people." This is the same of almost any government. They are not a monolithic hivemind by any means as a people, and when "anti-semetic" or "jew haters" so easily gets tossed around as accusations, it takes away any meaning or power of those terms.
They stole one, reverse engineered it and built a bunch of their own. And improved the design.Couldn't say. I know prior to being a nation they built underground ammo manufacturing labs and such.
Couldn't the same be said about all nations?The Israelis have been literally fighting to exist since the minute the nation was created.
That’s also why I don’t throw them around. Some people have a clear hatred of them though.It's so nuanced. I have Jewish friends, and most of them are not pleased with what is going on. In fact, some of them are outraged. A predominate talking point that I hear is "You must separate the Israeli Government views from the Jewish people." This is the same of almost any government. They are not a monolithic hivemind by any means as a people, and when "anti-semetic" or "jew haters" so easily get tossed around as accusations, it takes away any meaning or power of those terms.