Trump elected: what happens next?

[VonBonfire]

Couldn't the same be said about all nations?

Israel survived against many odds, so, no.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Couldn't the same be said about all nations?

Not really. The whole “ wipe them off the face of the earth” thing ?

 

[japetus]

Israel survived against many odds, so, no.

How many nations have never engaged in struggle or turmoil to ensure their survival?

 

[Floyd Eye]

How many nations have never engaged in struggle or turmoil to ensure their survival?

100% of the time from the moment they were founded to the present ? Only Israel.

 

[japetus]

Not really. The whole “ wipe them off the face of the earth” thing ?

So no other nations or peoples have ever faced the threats of genocide or actually experienced it?

 

[Floyd Eye]

So no other nations or peoples have ever faced the threats of genocide or actually experienced it?

Constantly from their formation through the present, no.

 

[japetus]

Constantly from their formation through the present, no.

I would guess that there would be many people in Africa under constant threat of genocide, as well as parts of Eastern Europe that may disagree.

 

[Floyd Eye]

I would guess that there would be many people in Africa under constant threat of genocide, as well as parts of Eastern Europe that may disagree.

Should be easy for you to name one then.

 

[VonBonfire]

How many nations have never engaged in struggle or turmoil to ensure their survival?

Many, but they weren't in perpetual conflict from the time of it's inception.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Many, but they weren't in perpetual conflict from the time of it's inception.

And random tribes are not nations.

Name a country that from its inception has had to fight multiple other countries constantly for their right to exist.

 

[japetus]

Should be easy for you to name one then.

The Tutsi in Rwanda.

 

[Floyd Eye]

The Tutsi in Rwanda.

What countries have vowed to wipe Rwanda off the map ?

 

[japetus]

And random tribes are not nations.

Name a country that from its inception has had to fight multiple other countries constantly for their right to exist.

When does a tribe end and a nation begin?

 

[japetus]

What countries have vowed to wipe Rwanda off the map ?

Well you said tribes and nations aren't the same, so I suppose that won't work.

 

[Floyd Eye]

When does a tribe end and a nation begin?

you’ve been hanging out with Acceptance too much.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Two warring factions in some African country is not the same thing as a country being formed and immediately threatened with annihilation for 80 something years straight is it.

 

[VonBonfire]

When does a tribe end and a nation begin?

African nations....many have had problems partly because tribal connection is stronger than secular national identity.

 

[japetus]

you’ve been hanging out with Acceptance too much.

I have no desire to play football "us vs them" games. I accept your opinion and you have the right to feel that way. The world is dynamic.

 

[VonBonfire]

Two warring factions in some African country is not the same thing as a country being formed and immediately threatened with annihilation for 80 something years straight is it.

Does it ever cross your mind that there might be biblical implications behind it? I know you aren't a believer but I just wanted to hear your take while we were talking. No judgments. It's a complex issue so I like to hear you and acceptance talk about it more than I care to participate, lol.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Does it ever cross your mind that there might be biblical implications behind it? I know you aren't a believer but I just wanted to hear your take while we were talking. No judgments. It's a complex issue so I like to hear you and acceptance talk about it more than I care to participate, lol.

I understand there are people who believe the Israelis are, or were, gods chosen people. Which is likely the root of the Muslims hatred toward them. I personally don’t believe they are. Those Israelites ceased to exist thousands of years ago.