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Actually, I kind of like the reverse psychology approach. That's not as typical these days... You know, the "seeker sensitive" "hate the sin not the sinner" stuff.
 
acceptance said:
Actually, I kind of like the reverse psychology approach. That's not as typical these days... You know, the "seeker sensitive" "hate the sin not the sinner" stuff.
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You could not misunderstand me any better.

:ROFLMAO:
 
acceptance said:
The OT god was vindictive, jealous, severe.
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Classic secular claim. I don't see that at all so you'd have to provide some examples. How about the counter argument, God's OT people were faithless, stiff necked, disobedient, etc. They agreed to a covenant and then immediately crapped all over it and received the just desserts for their actions. They broke the covenant. They witnessed the great miracles, many great miracles, you yourself have said "wish I could get a sign" and still they acted a fool.
acceptance said:
As for not being spoken back to, I don’t know of any Christians that claim to hear directly from God, and most people would probably suspect their sanity if they did. So we’re mostly left with indirect and subjective interpretations of what we think he may be trying to communicate.
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No one speaks directly to the OT God. He is only known through Christ so you'd be having to listen intently for what the holy spirit is offering as a directive adn then you'd test the spirit to make sure it is of God.
acceptance said:
Sure, we’d go through the pain and bs, but my point is that God could have prevented it.
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He gave Adam free will in the Garden and Adam spurned that by again, violating a verbal command from the Lord. You seem to assign more blame to God than to the fools who take up the cross only to cast it down in exchange for following their own path.
 
acceptance said:
You’ve been Protestant and orthodox right? In what way did orthodoxy fulfill you that the other didn’t? In what ways do orthodox believe it to be false?
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Protestantism is graphs and charts and timelines and endless speculations and "getting saved" (note the past tense nature of the protestant language.) It's a one and done or choose your own church that fits your likes, wants, needs, and beliefs. The itching ears effect. There are how many protestant denominations? Don't like it? START YOUR OWN!!!!!! Protestantism is sipping coffee inside a building that looks like a convention center listening to some dude in business attire make a Ted-X talk on the bible, selling you on his talking points.

No divine liturgy, no true sacraments. no glory honor and worship. Just welch's grape juice and a piece of crusty bread passed out. No pre communion prayer rule, no demand for self examination. Yet strangely protestanism is legalistic. Note Arch Stanton's penchant for telling you you're going to hell, over and over and over. That's kind of the average protestant mindset tbh. It's judgemental, and outward. "Attendance is your worship". Passing a tip bucket around publicly during service. Rock band on stage. Why not just go see some decent music instead of wasting a perfectly good sunday? How much more do you want me to unload?
 
VonBonfire said:
Note Arch Stanton's penchant for telling you you're going to hell, over and over and over.
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.. while you ignore him declaring he wants to go to hell and he thinks it's funny.. over, and over, and over.

:ROFLMAO:
 
Arch Stanton said:
.. while you ignore him declaring he wants to go to hell and he thinks it's funny.. over, and over, and over.

:ROFLMAO:
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I haven't read that from him. Maybe he's just responding in kind thanks to the way you've been telling him he's going to hell for two days now. You should be out hi hat shopping. Zildjian K's my man. Or some New Beats.
 
VonBonfire said:
Talk to anyone highly educated in mathematics and you will be told "there is no such thing as random". It doesn't exist, it's all mathematical patterning.
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Maybe. I like your reply though. Not sure it would explain the Big Bang or Dark Matter.
 
311splawndude said:
Maybe. I like your reply though. Not sure it would explain the Big Bang or Dark Matter.
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I guess I was thinking about random number generators. Especially like something used inside a slot machine. It's never random. There are no actual coincidences in mathematics. You look at a painting and you know there was a painter. Anything functional is functional because it was designed to be.

Have you ever read into tuning and how tempered tuning was decided on? An octave is the most perfect sounding interval. The next most perfect interval is a 5th. So, theoretically we should be able to ascend up by octaves and arrive on a given tone and replicate that using a perfect fifth. But they always arrive at a slightly different frequency, never fully matching up. So tempered tuning is a compromise. Everything is slightly out of tune so that it sounds more in tune as a whole whereas other types of tuning will sound more precise but have a very bum note/interval in there somewhere.

Man's fall from the garden is written into music this way. It should be a perfect circle but it spirals upward, like DNA, never meeting exactly full circle. Like Pi. And further these musical intervals also correspond to the layout of a human body. Ratios. Mathematics. It's pretty incredible stuff when you get into it and more evidence we are beings fashioned by a creator.
 
VonBonfire said:
I guess I was thinking about random number generators. Especially like something used inside a slot machine. It's never random. There are no actual coincidences in mathematics. You look at a painting and you know there was a painter. Anything functional is functional because it was designed to be.

Have you ever read into tuning and how tempered tuning was decided on? An octave is the most perfect sounding interval. The next most perfect interval is a 5th. So, theoretically we should be able to ascend up by octaves and arrive on a given tone and replicate that using a perfect fifth. But they always arrive at a slightly different frequency, never fully matching up. So tempered tuning is a compromise. Everything is slightly out of tune so that it sounds more in tune as a whole whereas other types of tuning will sound more precise but have a very bum note/interval in there somewhere.

Man's fall from the garden is written into music this way. It should be a perfect circle but it spirals upward, like DNA, never meeting exactly full circle. Like Pi. And further these musical intervals also correspond to the layout of a human body. Ratios. Mathematics. It's pretty incredible stuff when you get into it and more evidence we are beings fashioned by a creator.
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I believe the universe is both orderly and predictable as well as chaotic and random. Some claim that that randomness is actually predictable. Maybe. I doubt the object that crashed into earth thus creating the moon would been according to some plan or prediction. It is all fascinating to think about no matter what your background or beliefs. As far as tunings, yes I've heard of that. EVH had some crazy tunings going slightly sharp or flat. I often tune my B string slightly flatter than the rest and prefer my ear over a what the tuner is saying. Of course, it could be bad hearing too :lol:. There is a Colorado band I've seen called 432, which is based on the fact that they 432 tuning.
 
Arch Stanton said:
"Panama"

1st string: Eb +38.0 cents
2nd string: Bb +33.0 cents
3rd string: F# +29.0 cents
4th string: C# +39.0 cents
5th string: Ab +30.0 cents
6th string: Eb +32.0 cents
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So he tuned by ear. I doubt he dialed anything in proactively. But he seemed to wing a lot of things :yes:
 
311splawndude said:
So he tuned by ear.
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Wrong.

:geek:

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