Yo Von…

[Ben Waylin]

My neighbor loves that show lol. I always try to tell him those were evil spirits, fallen angels but he's too pumped up by it for anything I say to register.

Same thing with the whole pantheon of Greek and Roman "gods".. all Nephilim and fallen angels.

 

[VonBonfire]

Same thing with the whole pantheon of Greek and Roman "gods".. all Nephilim and fallen angels.

Yeah no doubt about it. The greek gods are supposed to have brought men "fire" which is consistent with the book of Enoch where the fallen beings taught fire making, metallurgy, weapon making and waging war, cosmetics i.e the painting of the eyes, and witchcraft. People need better hobbies cause TV literally does rot brains; it keeps them from thinking for themselves at all.

 

[Ben Waylin]

Yeah no doubt about it. The greek gods are supposed to have brought men "fire" which is consistent with the book of Enoch where the fallen beings taught fire making, metallurgy, weapon making and waging war, cosmetics i.e the painting of the eyes, and witchcraft. People need better hobbies cause TV literally does rot brains; it keeps them from thinking for themselves at all.

The whole "UFOs/Ancient Aliens" schtick is a brain-washing setup for the return of the Nephilim.

It'll be sold as "extraterrestrials".. anything but what they really are.

 

[VonBonfire]

The whole "UFOs/Ancient Aliens" schtick is a brain-washing setup for the return of the Nephilim.

It'll be sold as "extraterrestrials".. anything but what they really are.

I try to explain it to my neighbor but he is waaaay stuck on that show and is wild eyed about alien bases on mars and aliens "helping out the government (smh), etc etc. I have read and owned a bunch of the Zechariah Zitchin books starting in the early 90's so none of this is new to me but they are basically the same garbage as the show in print and totally off base. They actually took those ideas from his books. They weren't aliens, they were unclean spirits and nephilim just like you said.

There is a PHD who died recently, Michael Heiser, who was a christian and highly educated, a lecturer on those topics. He has a bunch of youtube videos debunking all that crap with a vengeance. He has put out a lot of good material worth listening to if it interests you.

 

[Ben Waylin]

I try to explain it to my neighbor but he is waaaay stuck on that show and is wild eyed about alien bases on mars and aliens "helping out the government (smh), etc etc. I have read and owned a bunch of the Zechariah Zitchin books starting in the early 90's so none of this is new to me but they are basically the same garbage as the show in print and totally off base. They actually took those ideas from his books. They weren't aliens, they were unclean spirits and nephilim just like you said.

There is a PHD who died recently, Michael Heiser, who was a christian and highly educated, a lecturer on those topics. He has a bunch of youtube videos debunking all that crap with a vengeance. He has put out a lot of good material worth listening to if it interests you.

Tohu va-Vohu Genesis 1:2 is the key to all of this.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

My neighbor loves that show lol. I always try to tell him those were evil spirits, fallen angels but he's too pumped up by it for anything I say to register.

I like it in small doses. It’s interesting until they try and tie it to aliens

 

[VonBonfire]

I like it in small doses. It’s interesting until they try and tie it to aliens

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I wouldn't rule out life elsewhere totally, the bible alludes to it somewhat in a couple passages, but if life elsewhere, strictly physical life forms...if they were super intelligent enough to travel here they would probably avoid this place like a gas station in the shitty part of town. So I chalk it up to demonic activity. There are ranks, just like an army and the same is true in the angelic realm as well.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I wouldn't rule out life elsewhere totally, the bible alludes to it somewhat in a couple passages, but if life elsewhere, strictly physical life forms...if they were super intelligent enough to travel here they would probably avoid this place like a gas station in the shitty part of town. So I chalk it up to demonic activity. There are ranks, just like an army and the same is true in the angelic realm as well.

In intergalactic terms, earth is a speck of nothingness. If a race intelligent enough to get here, ended up here, it was by mistake. Someone got fired that day.

 

[VonBonfire]

In intergalactic terms, earth is a speck of nothingness. If a race intelligent enough to get here, ended up here, it was by mistake. Someone got fired that day.

Well in the vastness of the heavens pretty much every astral body is a speck. Like one grain of sand in a vast ocean. In Zitchin's theory the aliens needed gold to restore the atmosphere of their home planet. In bible theory the demons follow the money i.e gold, and power....

 

[japetus]

Well in the vastness of the heavens pretty much every astral body is a speck. Like one grain of sand in a vast ocean. In Zitchin's theory the aliens needed gold to restore the atmosphere of their home planet. In bible theory the demons follow the money i.e gold, and power....

THE ANNUNAKIIIIIIIIIIIII

 

[acceptance]

wtf dude. Even when I agree that the “story doesn’t matter” you can’t shut up about it lol.

What math do you want? What are you going to with the formulas? Lol
Here is a page full of them, knock yourself out
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/orbit-formula#:~:text=The orbit formula, r = ( h 2 / μ ),function of the true anomaly.

i look forward to seeing your results lol


But as I said, we can see all the things in our solar system that we can accurately calculate as well. We can literally look at them.

Okay, I didn't read that you ceded the point about the "story." Fair enough. As for the equation, are you sure that is how they calculate eclipses? I don't have enough math knowledge to evaluate the formula in order to determine that it "proves" the conventional understanding of the solar system. I do know enough math to understand that you can achieve the same results with various formula, so again I'm not sure that it proves anything. Either way, all you are doing is throwing shit out there, not articulating your point or explaining anything. I doubt you have enough math to do so anyways — do you have a better reference?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Well in the vastness of the heavens pretty much every astral body is a speck. Like one grain of sand in a vast ocean. In Zitchin's theory the aliens needed gold to restore the atmosphere of their home planet. In bible theory the demons follow the money i.e gold, and power....

They missed Psyche 16

 

[acceptance]

For reference @Aynirar27 , the original point I made is that the "story" (The given model of the cosmos) doesn't matter in order to accurately predict eclipses, so if that's agreed on now, great. I still would like for you to substantiate your assertion that the math "proves" the conventional model is true.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Okay, I didn't read that you ceded the point about the "story." Fair enough. As for the equation, are you sure that is how they calculate eclipses? I don't have enough math knowledge to evaluate the formula in order to determine that it "proves" the conventional understanding of the solar system. I do know enough math to understand that you can achieve the same results with various formula, so again I'm not sure that it proves anything. Either way, all you are doing is throwing shit out there, not articulating your point or explaining anything. I doubt you have enough math to do so anyways — do you have a better reference?

Dude you quoted me saying that the story doesn’t matter and questioned it lol. Do you even read what you post? It’s astonishing how often you step on your own dick.

And those are formulas for orbits. Eclipses happen because of orbits.

 

[acceptance]

hey weren't aliens, they were unclean spirits and nephilim just like you said.

Are you saying they are one and the same? Why do you believe this?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

For reference @Aynirar27 , the original point I made is that the "story" (The given model of the cosmos) doesn't matter in order to accurately predict eclipses, so if that's agreed on now, great. I still would like for you to substantiate your assertion that the math "proves" the conventional model is true.

special

 

[acceptance]

special

I'm just trying to pretend that you aren't full of shit

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I'm just trying to pretend that you aren't full of shit

You are asking me to mathematically prove that eclipses happen because the moon comes between the earth and the sun, even though you said yourself the formulas I provided to you are over your head, and I’m the one full of shit? Fucksakes dude, go outside once in a while.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Yet another example that you have no interest in discussing anything. You just want to try and prove me wrong as if I’m expressing my own ideas and findings and not well known, widely accepted, easily proven facts.

 

[acceptance]

Yet another example that you have no interest in discussing anything. You just want to try and prove me wrong as if I’m expressing my own ideas and findings and not well known, widely accepted, easily proven facts.

You're just repeating what you were taught. You have no independent understanding or grasp of the matter. ... Exactly what @NowYou'rePlayingWithPower was saying. That's what you get in academia these days I guess