Your Opinion on Holy Grail Modern Metal Tone(s)

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NowYou'rePlayingWithPower said:
JCM800 not on the most wanted list?!
Crazy talk.
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lol who the fuck wants a JCM 800? I've got a '83 vertical input modded by Dave that does sound great for what it is, but I'm not sure I've ever seen people rave en masse about its tone?

probably because it needs to be cranked....so genuine question is JCM 800 demand a thing?
 
VESmedic said:
I do not believe colony was a 5150. I always thought it was years ago but as I’ve gotten an older and learned about that sound, I don’t think it is. It’s very much an Engl cab though. That sound is in an Engl 4x12 with V30s with the “fredman” technique. It is that sound instantly for the most part. It catches the vibe most are trying to get.

Clayman was a 5150 and the Engl cab, as well as a Marshall Valvestate 8100 blended in with believe it or not, a Laney 4x12.
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You're correct, I just confuse all the records after Whoracle because I don't like them 😂
 
Nashville Riff Co said:
lol who the fuck wants a JCM 800? I've got a '83 vertical input modded by Dave that does sound great for what it is, but I'm not sure I've ever seen people rave en masse about its tone?

probably because it needs to be cranked....so genuine question is JCM 800 demand a thing?
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not sure how representative I am, but I've owned OG C+ DRG, an 80s SLO, several VH4s including an OG blue face, all the Recto versions except D, Bogner mods, etc.

My fav amp of all time easily is a Marshall 2204.
 
Artist: Crowbar
Album: Sonic Excess In Its Purest Form
Year: 2001







Unbelievably heavy tone. Recorded with solid state Randalls.
 
cardinal said:
not sure how representative I am, but I've owned OG C+ DRG, an 80s SLO, several VH4s including an OG blue face, all the Recto versions except D, Bogner mods, etc.

My fav amp of all time easily is a Marshall 2204.
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wow, that's incredible man, can I ask what brings you back to the 2204 after all those?
 
cardinal said:
I dunno. It just sounds right. It has a voice to me. Higher gain amps sort of almost sound just like a wall of static or white noise that changes pitch with the note.
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that's awesome, the 800 I have is great for rhythm, but the single note stuff has a clarity and almost sing-songy voice that is unlike anything else imo
 
This is one of my favorite bands of all time. They were only together for a few years in the early 00's, just long enough to make three records, but they had a huge impact on me. The feel of most of their songs has this freight train quality to it, not because it's the most crushingly brutal stuff ever, it's not that kind of music, but it feels like there's an unstoppable sense of momentum with this band.

Also, probably more important than any one single guitar tone used in these songs, the cool thing is in how the band approaches layering guitars, each part dialed with slight variations of similar tones to reach an overall effect. Their songs are often comprised of a ton of different guitar tracks playing a bunch of different parts, all working well together, all fluidly moving in and out of the mix as the mood changes.

So maybe this band represents less "holy grail singular guitar tone" and more "holy grail bunch-of-guitars-in-a-mix" tone. Either way, I think it's worth hearing.

This is their 2nd album. Genre is somewhere between Doom and Melodeath. Love this band, love the production. No earthly idea what gear was used.

Artist: Rapture
Album: Songs for the Withering
Year: 2003



Note: This next track in particular is a very slow burn, but great. If you want to skip that, the heaviest part starts at 2:57.









Here's the full album playlist on youtube:
 
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TheGreatGreen said:
This band is one of my favorite bands of all time. They were only together for a few years in the early 00's, just long enough to make three records, but they had a huge impact on me. The riffs have this freight train quality to them, not necessarily because they're the most crushingly brutal stuff ever, it's not that, but it feels like there's just an unstoppable momentum there. This is their 2nd album. Genre is somewhere between Doom and Melodeath. Love this band, love the production just as much.

No earthly idea what gear was used.

Artist: Rapture
Album: Songs for the Withering
Year: 2003



Note: This next track in particular is a very slow burn, but great. If you want to skip that, the heaviest part starts at 2:57.



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very cool, I love obscure stuff like this, I'll dive in to see what I can find out!
 
stephen sawall said:
Testament

Im not really into them. But the guitar sounds have always been better than most. The stuff from the last decade or so.
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yea I follow them closely enough but they're kind of a weird bunch....they'll use whatever's in the studio...skolnick did the solos for one of the recent records with an SLO in the studio and then he had that weird Peavey signature amp with a gazillion knobs on it.

I don't really consider them modern though...they're kind of the forgotten thrash kids of the 80s
 
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