Your Opinion on Holy Grail Modern Metal Tone(s)

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I dunno who uses what in the recent past, but I appreciate most of the Fortins and Engls for drop tuning. At least in person. Monstrous.
 
Nashville Riff Co said:
wow I did not know that! wasn't the Colony/Clayman tone just a 5150? at least that's what I always though
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I do not believe colony was a 5150. I always thought it was years ago but as I’ve gotten an older and learned about that sound, I don’t think it is. It’s very much an Engl cab though. That sound is in an Engl 4x12 with V30s with the “fredman” technique. It is that sound instantly for the most part. It catches the vibe most are trying to get.

Clayman was a 5150 and the Engl cab, as well as a Marshall Valvestate 8100 blended in with believe it or not, a Laney 4x12.
 
Dimmu Borgir gets a lot of shit from the black metal community because their records actually sound good and not like they were recorded with a single radioshack mic from the other side of a storm drain tunnel, so clearly they’re not real black metal.

But their PEM album has some of the most crushing tone I’ve ever heard. They used ENGL Savage 120’s on that album, not sure what cabs or mics.


 
TheGreatGreen said:
Dimmu Borgir gets a lot of shit from the black metal community because their records actually sound good and not like they were recorded with a single radioshack mic from the other side of a storm drain tunnel, so clearly they’re not real black metal.

But their PEM album has some of the most crushing tone I’ve ever heard. They used ENGL Savage 120’s on that album, not sure what cabs or mics.


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One of my favorite sounding records of all time, top 5 probably for me. It is absolutely bonkers and a travesty they remastered/mixed it. That record was absolutely perfect sounding.
 
VESmedic said:
One of my favorite sounding records of all time, top 5 probably for me. It is absolutely bonkers and a travesty they remastered/mixed it. That record was absolutely perfect sounding.
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Yeah I couldn’t believe how bad the remix was. But man that original record is an all timer for guitar tone.
 
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My 2 cents. Times are like they've always been...good music is out there if you look for it. Lots of shit music too, just like the 80's and 90's. I believe the days are over of being spoon fed a band that sells millions of albums and get in the mainstream to hear it like a lot of those 80's bands.
I don't know about holy grail, but here are a few may be worth checking out.

Michael Romeo's War of Worlds entire album is great:


I don't think Volbeat has a bad song and guitars are always pushed forward. This may not be the best guitar song they have, but one of my favorites.


Ghost has a unique sound and good melodies.


Always loved Falconers tone. In a world of dropped tuning, he pushes the hell out of the mids.


Orden Ogan, just about every song is pretty cool.
 
stratjacket said:
My 2 cents. Times are like they've always been...good music is out there if you look for it. Lots of shit music too, just like the 80's and 90's. I believe the days are over of being spoon fed a band that sells millions of albums and get in the mainstream to hear it like a lot of those 80's bands.
I don't know about holy grail, but here are a few may be worth checking out.

Michael Romeo's War of Worlds entire album is great:


I don't think Volbeat has a bad song and guitars are always pushed forward. This may not be the best guitar song they have, but one of my favorites.


Ghost has a unique sound and good melodies.


Always loved Falconers tone. In a world of dropped tuning, he pushes the hell out of the mids.


Orden Ogan, just about every song is pretty cool.
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thanks very much for all this, massively appreciated, any clues on what amps were used? no worries if not
 
Once players started tuning lower than D everything started sounding the same to me. Just gain, more gain, and tunings too low to distinguish notes. I think the last album I listened to and thought, that's a cool guitar tone, was City of Evil.
 
Nashville Riff Co said:
thanks very much for all this, massively appreciated, any clues on what amps were used? no worries if not
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Michael Romeo uses a Caparison Signature for ever. Dimarzio X2N Bridge and Tonezone Neck. Engl Fireball 60W amp.

Falconer guitarist sounds like a Marshall, saw a while back he played Marshall JCM2000 and an ESP LTD Exp400

Volbeat, good article here on it. Looks like ESP and Marshall JCM800 and Fryette SigX
https://www.guitarworld.com/feature...fuels-the-danish-american-rock-n-roll-machine

Wasn't sure on Orden Ogan, but quick search showed this, sounds like us they use everything. https://greenman-studios.de/?page_id=39
 
stratjacket said:
Michael Romeo uses a Caparison Signature for ever. Dimarzio X2N Bridge and Tonezone Neck. Engl Fireball 60W amp.

Falconer guitarist sounds like a Marshall, saw a while back he played Marshall JCM2000 and an ESP LTD Exp400

Volbeat, good article here on it. Looks like ESP and Marshall JCM800 and Fryette SigX
https://www.guitarworld.com/feature...fuels-the-danish-american-rock-n-roll-machine

Wasn't sure on Orden Ogan, but quick search showed this, sounds like us they use everything. https://greenman-studios.de/?page_id=39
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damn I love that these guys are using JCM2000's, JCM800's and Enel's....not stuff that would make the most wanted list on any forum from my experience

fascinating and thank you once again!
 
Nashville Riff Co said:
damn I love that these guys are using JCM2000's, JCM800's and Enel's....not stuff that would make the most wanted list on any forum from my experience

fascinating and thank you once again!
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JCM800 not on the most wanted list?!
Crazy talk.
 
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