Apparently there's a supposed rumour of a C+ reissue

I honestly don't buy this explanation because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. What vintage components are so special that they cannot be substituted with a modern equivalent? We're talking about resistors, capacitors, pots, silicon and wire. I remember Steven Fryette saying an interview recently that his theory as to why Mesa would come up with excuses to not remake the IIC+ is because it wouldn't be a profitable venture from a buisiness standpoint. The high grade of steel required for the transformers, which was cheap in the 80s, grew in cost over time to the point where it was too expensive or rare to mass manufacture. Very little if any profit margin.

I have heard on good authority that Randall was always a little bitter about the C+ because it wasn’t his entirely his baby
 
I have heard on good authority that Randall was always a little bitter about the C+ because it wasn’t his entirely his baby
I think that’s entirely possible. His personal feelings about it mixed with environmental laws that have been passed around the manufacture of certain components mentioned before could be the main reasons.
 
It smells bullshit to me too. Steel costs like $1000 for a metric tonne(2200 lbs), double or triple it, and you still got 2-3 dollars per kilogramm(2.2 lbs). Whole amp weights around 20-25 kg(45-55 lbs) which even if we attribute it to transformers only costs like $75. Not too much in the days where amps cost $3500.

Maybe there is some chemical process that is restricted to replicate by today’s law, but then again, who the fuck cares about law anyway? Just write “Woman Owned and Operated” “More than 50% black and alphabet people employees” near company name and you can test nuclear weapons on an inhabited city even 😂
No, it’s actually like the pyramids. They can’t figure out how the ancients even made them. Many believe aliens helped.

If you add up all the frequencies of the graphic eq, then times it by 2, you get the circumference of Mars. The c in 2c is the clue. Do you think humans could create tone like that? Wake up!
 
No, it’s actually like the pyramids. They can’t figure out how the ancients even made them. Many believe aliens helped.

If you add up all the frequencies of the graphic eq, then times it by 2, you get the circumference of Mars. The c in 2c is the clue. Do you think humans could create tone like that? Wake up!
What happened to the cap though?
 
All kidding aside I hope they do sound killer, although a guy like me will never probably even get the chance to play one. The corksniffing Pokemon amp collectors will snatch them all up at secondary prices and let them rot in their amp room. Hey, to each their own!
You better watch out that’s like half the people on this forum 😉 all joking aside it does crack me up to see dudes with 12 mark iic+ all stacked up probably getting 3 chords a year played through most of them. Tragedy
 
To quote Randall/West & company, Mesa cannot; could not build a Mk IIC+ due to original parts no longer being available. Even some parts for repair are no longer available as well, according Bendinelli. Those components being critical and vital to the sound and character of the amp are being substituted. When Bogner reissued the Fish, it was close but not 100% and they were produced on a limited scale as well. The market reacted by maintaining the value of the originals ahead of the reissues.

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I had an early 80’s Mark II Combo, MK III, and a Quad Preamp. The thing I miss about those amps, that the MK V and MK VII didn’t have, was all the push/pull knobs. I think there was a Harmonics switch around the back.
 
Any updates or newer rumors? Schedule?
Heard back from my SW guy this morning. Mesa said the reissue Rectos should be “coming out” after the new year. Jan-Feb likely.

No official date on the IIC+ yet. I’d expect spring or summer.

EDIT: That said, if you want one, get up your rep’s ass NOW. Tell him you want one and to charge your card the second he hears something. Get on an preorder list. Put down a deposit. Keep calling every 3 weeks for updates. Otherwise they’ll all be scooped up before release by collectors, flippers, and scalpers.
 
Dream Theatre is beyond amazing . The first 6 albums are the shit . Well the first 6 from 92 on . Unreal band . Rarely do I get jealous . Il jealous of of them finding each other lol I wish I had tgstv
Man, I respect it, but I just cannot get into it.
 
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