I like Tom Morello more than Eddie Van Halen...

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redrol":d288e said:
America isn't all that great right last time I checked. Education decine and religious fervor is at an all time high right now. Communism is a great philosophy which will always get screwed up due to the nature of mankind.

if things weren't the way they were, it would be great; however, things are the way they are, so it sucks. Think I got it ;)
 
grooveHT":fb1a4 said:
redrol":fb1a4 said:
America isn't all that great right last time I checked. Education decine and religious fervor is at an all time high right now. Communism is a great philosophy which will always get screwed up due to the nature of mankind.

if things weren't the way they were, it would be great; however, things are the way they are, so it sucks. Think I got it ;)
aw cmon...it doesn't suk ALL the time. :lol: :LOL:
 
Odin":d7d25 said:
skoora":d7d25 said:
Morello stretched the boundaries of how we perceive electric guitar and it's role in creating sounds in rock.

No, he didn't. Seriously, he didn't do anything close to that. He played guitar in a couple of fourth rate pop bands and never stretched the boundaries of guitar any farther than Huey Lewis did. At least Huey Lewis made some great pop tunes.

Don't drag freakin Huey Lewis into this! Huey Lewis is a saint! And also had/has great hair. Plus he played harmonica on thin lizzy's live and dangerous album!
 
grooveHT":7912f said:
Odin":7912f said:
skoora":7912f said:
Morello stretched the boundaries of how we perceive electric guitar and it's role in creating sounds in rock.

No, he didn't. Seriously, he didn't do anything close to that. He played guitar in a couple of fourth rate pop bands and never stretched the boundaries of guitar any farther than Huey Lewis did. At least Huey Lewis made some great pop tunes.

Don't drag freakin Huey Lewis into this! Huey Lewis is a saint! And also had/has great hair. Plus he played harmonica on thin lizzy's live and dangerous album!
he's a saint? huey lewis didn't play guitar did he? is he a plick? is he anti-american? haha...this thread roolz! :lol: :LOL:
 
j666":f8fbb said:
grooveHT":f8fbb said:
redrol":f8fbb said:
America isn't all that great right last time I checked. Education decine and religious fervor is at an all time high right now. Communism is a great philosophy which will always get screwed up due to the nature of mankind.

if things weren't the way they were, it would be great; however, things are the way they are, so it sucks. Think I got it ;)
aw cmon...it doesn't suk ALL the time. :lol: :LOL:


Well, China does produce a shit ton more guitars than we do now, so can we agree on like 99.99%?
 
grooveHT":1d5ef said:
j666":1d5ef said:
grooveHT":1d5ef said:
if things weren't the way they were, it would be great; however, things are the way they are, so it sucks. Think I got it ;)
aw cmon...it doesn't suk ALL the time. :lol: :LOL:


Well, China does produce a shit ton more guitars than we do now, so can we agree on like 99.99%?
agreed. :D
 
j666":de88b said:
grooveHT":de88b said:
Well, China does produce a shit ton more guitars than we do now, so can we agree on like 99.99%?
agreed. :D

Fucking agreement in a thread like this! There is hope for world peace!

Peace and rock and fuckin' roll be with you brother!
 
grooveHT":77eda said:
j666":77eda said:
grooveHT":77eda said:
Well, China does produce a shit ton more guitars than we do now, so can we agree on like 99.99%?
agreed. :D

Fucking agreement in a thread like this! There is hope for world peace!

Peace and rock and fuckin' roll be with you brother!
WORD. :thumbsup:
 
amiller":85a7b said:
SgtThump":85a7b said:
amiller":85a7b said:
Sorry guys, I just don't get all of the EVH bashing. Unless the guy has directly done YOU a wrong why go after him. I heard all of the stories and they may be true but I've never had EVH come after me specifically so I can't display all of the hostility some of you seem to have toward him. Maybe I'm totally wrong but it sure smacks of envy...just saying. :)

Someone ALWAYS comes along and says people are jealous... Well yeah, I am jealous I can't play guitar for a living, have several hits, tens of millions of dollars, all the chicks I want, etc... But that's not the point. :no:

With all due respect: :)

OK, let's say it's not about being jealous...then, what is the point? Why all of the anger toward someone who has not harmed you directly? I've read interviews were Malmsteen is being a complete shit and I saw a video of Nuno Bettencourt throwing his guitar across the stage at a roady 'cause it wasn't in tune yet I don't see any where near the bitching about them as I see about EVH.

I'm not trying to be a fanboy of EVH. In fact, although I respect him as a player, I've never been a big fan of the band...just not my style of music. It's just that I see SO much hatred directed his way it really makes me wonder why so much is directed his way and not nearly as much elsewhere. It's like he's everyone's favorite whipping boy here and on HC.

If you look at the history of his interactions with his bandmates, you'll see that he is quite an asshole and doesn't really seem to care about the fans any.
 
grooveHT":2e8cd said:
Odin":2e8cd said:
skoora":2e8cd said:
Morello stretched the boundaries of how we perceive electric guitar and it's role in creating sounds in rock.

No, he didn't. Seriously, he didn't do anything close to that. He played guitar in a couple of fourth rate pop bands and never stretched the boundaries of guitar any farther than Huey Lewis did. At least Huey Lewis made some great pop tunes.

Don't drag freakin Huey Lewis into this! Huey Lewis is a saint! And also had/has great hair. Plus he played harmonica on thin lizzy's live and dangerous album!

I like Huey Lewis. He always had a helluva band, too.
 
redrol":5680f said:
America isn't all that great right last time I checked.

America is far from perfect. Which countries made your "all that great" list?


redrol":5680f said:
Education decine and religious fervor is at an all time high right now.

We're educating tens of millions of illegal aliens at no cost to them. We have one of the highest literacy rates in the world (even with all those illiterate illegals in the country dragging our literacy rates down).

You claim that religious fervor is at an all time high right now, but you should compare it to the religious fervor in much of the Muslim world - we don't even come close. We're not even close to much of Europe's level of religiosity.

Your statements appear to based on limited context and limited global knowledge. Compared to the rest of the world, America is all that great, very literate and educated, and quite secular in nature. Of course there are exceptions found everywhere, and of course America has much room for improvement, but contrary to your sentiments the sky is not falling.


redrol":5680f said:
Communism is a great philosophy which will always get screwed up due to the nature of mankind.

Communism forces humans to submit to the will of others and eliminates freedom, especially the type of freedom that alows you to express opinions like that which you just expressed. I suspect that you are enamored with the idea that communism can solve the ills of man, but I see no evidence of this. Compare communist countries to democratic countries - how many people flee democracy to seek refuge in communism? Even the "poor" in America don't seek refuge in socialist or communist countries, because the "poor" in America would be considered rich in those countries.

All that hippie shit sounds good when you're young and naive, but if you have the will to go out and make something for yourself America is the greatest country on Earth. Ditch the weed, get a haricut, take a bath and go out there and grab your piece of the American dream - it's there for the taking if you have the discipline to go out and get it. Hell, even the illegals that invade our country love American capitalism more than you do, maybe you can trade places with one of them that came from a socialist or communist country and you'd both be happier.

And now I realy should stop taking part in this discussion, because arguing politics on the Internet truly is like competing in the Special Olympics. ;)
 
1. Morello is a Socialist, not a commie.

2. I somewhat enjoy Morellos music, I could do without the whammy pedal droning, but over all Rage and Slave are good bands.

3. EVH IS an asshole

4. EVH is a great guitarist and songwriter, but him being an asshole overshadows it, much the way Zakks neanderthal biker wanna-be act ruins his playing for me.

5. EVH HAS threatened a friend of mine, SO does that give me the right to call him an asshole?
 
Sorry man that riff from know your enemy is greater than anything Huey Lewis did. Morello doesn't need tons of effects to sound great, why he uses them is anyones guess but its not my palce to say he shouldn't.
 
Odin":37487 said:
redrol":37487 said:
America isn't all that great right last time I checked.

America is far from perfect. Which countries made your "all that great" list?


redrol":37487 said:
Education decine and religious fervor is at an all time high right now.

We're educating tens of millions of illegal aliens at no cost to them. We have one of the highest literacy rates in the world (even with all those illiterate illegals in the country dragging our literacy rates down).

You claim that religious fervor is at an all time high right now, but you should compare it to the religious fervor in much of the Muslim world - we don't even come close. We're not even close to much of Europe's level of religiosity.

Your statements appear to based on limited context and limited global knowledge. Compared to the rest of the world, America is all that great, very literate and educated, and quite secular in nature. Of course there are exceptions found everywhere, and of course America has much room for improvement, but contrary to your sentiments the sky is not falling.


redrol":37487 said:
Communism is a great philosophy which will always get screwed up due to the nature of mankind.

Communism forces humans to submit to the will of others and eliminates freedom, especially the type of freedom that alows you to express opinions like that which you just expressed. I suspect that you are enamored with the idea that communism can solve the ills of man, but I see no evidence of this. Compare communist countries to democratic countries - how many people flee democracy to seek refuge in communism? Even the "poor" in America don't seek refuge in socialist or communist countries, because the "poor" in America would be considered rich in those countries.

All that hippie shit sounds good when you're young and naive, but if you have the will to go out and make something for yourself America is the greatest country on Earth. Ditch the weed, get a haricut, take a bath and go out there and grab your piece of the American dream - it's there for the taking if you have the discipline to go out and get it. Hell, even the illegals that invade our country love American capitalism more than you do, maybe you can trade places with one of them that came from a socialist or communist country and you'd both be happier.

And now I realy should stop taking part in this discussion, because arguing politics on the Internet truly is like competing in the Special Olympics. ;)

Your points on communism are wrong buddy! It was adopted under Lenin to reference the trials of the proletariat which allowed all that oppression, an act of an individual that has nothing to do with real communism or marxism or socialism! Check your history pal :thumbsup:
 
Here's my quick $.02
EVH and Roth are both world class assholes. I've never met either one of them but I can guarantee you that I couldn't spend 5 minutes in the same room with either one, let alone both. Just watch some interviews with them, that last namm presentation with EVH is a prime example. No wonder things can't work with Van Halen, it's amazing that two egos that big could coexist as long as they did. With that said I dig the fuck out of old VH and when Eddie's 97 he'll still be able to play me under the table. No I'm not an EVH fanboy and yes there are better players out there but I'll give Eddie his kudos for what he did in his day, all of that crap is subjective anyway.
Tom Morello= a big MEH for me but whatever you like. As far as his politics I find him to be living in a dream world just like the rest of the "far left" for lack of a better term. I also think the same thing about the ultra right wing. Those types on either side couldn't be more wrong, it's not a perfect world. It's easy to get sucked into radical ideas when you don't take the time to make your own analysis, most of the time the answers are somewhere in the middle.
 
SgtThump":38b0f said:
redrol":38b0f said:
America isn't all that great right last time I checked. Education decine and religious fervor is at an all time high right now. Communism is a great philosophy which will always get screwed up due to the nature of mankind.

Perhaps you should move to China? Be sure to report back just how great everything is there...


:lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:
 
SgtThump":f2d2e said:
eddie_van_halen1.jpg

Everytime I see this pic and the look on that chic's face....all I can see her saying is

"Yeah, I sucked it."
 
theNoseBleedKid":005f0 said:
Odin":005f0 said:
redrol":005f0 said:
America isn't all that great right last time I checked.

America is far from perfect. Which countries made your "all that great" list?


redrol":005f0 said:
Education decine and religious fervor is at an all time high right now.

We're educating tens of millions of illegal aliens at no cost to them. We have one of the highest literacy rates in the world (even with all those illiterate illegals in the country dragging our literacy rates down).

You claim that religious fervor is at an all time high right now, but you should compare it to the religious fervor in much of the Muslim world - we don't even come close. We're not even close to much of Europe's level of religiosity.

Your statements appear to based on limited context and limited global knowledge. Compared to the rest of the world, America is all that great, very literate and educated, and quite secular in nature. Of course there are exceptions found everywhere, and of course America has much room for improvement, but contrary to your sentiments the sky is not falling.


redrol":005f0 said:
Communism is a great philosophy which will always get screwed up due to the nature of mankind.

Communism forces humans to submit to the will of others and eliminates freedom, especially the type of freedom that alows you to express opinions like that which you just expressed. I suspect that you are enamored with the idea that communism can solve the ills of man, but I see no evidence of this. Compare communist countries to democratic countries - how many people flee democracy to seek refuge in communism? Even the "poor" in America don't seek refuge in socialist or communist countries, because the "poor" in America would be considered rich in those countries.

All that hippie shit sounds good when you're young and naive, but if you have the will to go out and make something for yourself America is the greatest country on Earth. Ditch the weed, get a haricut, take a bath and go out there and grab your piece of the American dream - it's there for the taking if you have the discipline to go out and get it. Hell, even the illegals that invade our country love American capitalism more than you do, maybe you can trade places with one of them that came from a socialist or communist country and you'd both be happier.

And now I realy should stop taking part in this discussion, because arguing politics on the Internet truly is like competing in the Special Olympics. ;)

Your points on communism are wrong buddy! It was adopted under Lenin to reference the trials of the proletariat which allowed all that oppression, an act of an individual that has nothing to do with real communism or marxism or socialism! Check your history pal :thumbsup:

Check your history...I'm not buying into the commie propaganda, you tell me which communist society has been greater than America's capitalist society.
 
I find it funny that everyone confuses Communism with an oligarchy. True Communism according to the manifesto written by Karl Marx is a society where there is no centralized government, where everyone is able to rule themselves, no laws are present and it is a utopia. The true form of communism turns into an oligarchy that leaves the vast amount of the country poor even though communism is supposed to make everyone equal, instead of no laws they have so many stupid laws they have to enforce them by sheer terror. Communism is such a flawed system it makes me laugh just thinking about it. Especially by older people that have no clue. I'm 17 and I get this a lot better than you do apparently.
 
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