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panhead whips out the border when he gets defensive.
Dave goes for the low blow.

Nice one Dave! (y)

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Wasn’t meant to be a low blow, but you shared details and you post some nutty stuff.

I also commended you for sobriety in another thread weeks ago. 👍
 
Wasn’t meant to be a low blow.

I'll take you at your word. Also, it doesn't bother me in all seriousness.
I dissed you because maybe I could have have been someone where it really did sting.
You're a funny guy. You can easily come up with better shit.

Quick aside:
During my first year I'd purposely walk through liquor stores to buy stupid stuff like lighters.
Got sick of all the references on TV and everywhere else - is there even a gas station left in
California that doesn't also sell beer? And my wife still drinks at home. NO WAY I'm gonna
be one of THOSE sober fucks.

So the liquor store was like mainlining a huge dose of temptation all in one shot.
It worked.




(so far - humility son. humilty.)
 

“We have seen a 25% increase in deaths of people who are FULLY Vaccinated”​


This headline is so sensationalist it's ridiculous.

58% are vaccinated according to the article.

VERY loose example of that headline:
WV has 1.8 million people.
0.58 x 1.8 million x 0.25 = 261,000 vaccinated dead people !?!?!?!

- what percentage of vaccinated people are catching Covid again?
- what percentage of those are ending up in the hospital?

Shouldn't we get a bit more data before jumping to such sensationalist headlines?


 
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Donnie.... again, you really have cognitive decline. I never said anything about his position on the vaccine or telling people to get vaccinated. I showed a video that the governor is saying that there is a massive uptick in deaths of vaccinated people who is PRO vaccine and vaccinations. Is he trying to create a sensational headline? These are a governors own words. This is why you have no credibility, you readily change topics and never respond the the current posts.
 
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I never said anything about his position on the vaccine or telling people to get vaccinated.

Begs the question, why did you take the time to increase the text size and bold that one line?
You made a clear statement that vaccines aren't working. That's called confirmation bias.

I showed a video that the governor is saying that there is a massive uptick in deaths of vaccinated people

MASSIVE UPTICK IN DEATHS!!!!

You wear your bias on your sleeve Dave.
It'd be funny if you weren't fucking around with such a serious subject.
 
Begs the question, why did you take the time to increase the text size and bold that one line?
You made a clear statement that vaccines aren't working. That's called confirmation bias.



MASSIVE UPTICK IN DEATHS!!!!

You wear your bias on your sleeve Dave.
It'd be funny if you weren't fucking around with such a serious subject.
I didn’t make it big. I copied and pasted the headline. The font size stayed the same. Man, you really aren’t good at this computer thing are you pops?

So since it’s a serious subject, answer a few questions. Don’t do your usual deflection because you know the answers are not what you like to hear. These are simple yes or no answers.

Does the vaccine prevent the spread of Covid?
Can a vaccinated person spread Covid to another vaccinated person?
Does the vaccine prevent someone from contracting Covid?
Can someone who is vaccinated still die from contracting Covid?
If we had a 100% vaccination rate, would Covid be completely eradicated?
Does the Covid vaccination cause severe side effects including death?
 
Does the vaccine prevent the spread of Covid?
No. But it reduces the chances.
Can a vaccinated person spread Covid to another vaccinated person?
Sure. It's a germ that likes sticking to soft tissue - like in your nose and mouth.
Does the vaccine prevent someone from contracting Covid?
No. Why do you keep asking the same question?
Can someone who is vaccinated still die from contracting Covid?
Sure.
If we had a 100% vaccination rate, would Covid be completely eradicated?
Which definition of the word eradicate are you using?
If the human race achieves full blown herd immunity then Covid19
would be eradicated as a human health threat.

Not enough data on the new variant, and obviously if the germ mutates again all bets are off.
Does the Covid vaccination cause severe side effects including death?

Yes. And you said DOES. The correct word is CAN.
Did you know that some people have severe side effects and can even die from eating a peanut?
 
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Why get vaccinated?
- greatly reduces your chance of catching C19
- if you get C19 it greatly reduces your chances of getting seriously sick
- it almost eliminates the need for hospitalization
- you become a member of the human race's goal of herd immunity

And stop posting cherry picked news blurbs from obviously biased sources.
The germ has been infecting the entire planet now for a year and a half,
and there's been more than 5 billion doses of vaccines given.

You find a news blurb, try at least vetting it a bit before accepting it as fact.
And if you post it here you can be sure it will get vetted by others.
 
Why get vaccinated?
- greatly reduces your chance of catching C19
- if you get C19 it greatly reduces your chances of getting seriously sick
- it almost eliminates the need for hospitalization
- you become a member of the human race's goal of herd immunity

And stop posting cherry picked news blurbs from obviously biased sources.
The germ has been infecting the entire planet now for a year and a half,
and there's been more than 5 billion doses of vaccines given.

You find a news blurb, try at least vetting it a bit before accepting it as fact.
And if you post it here you can be sure it will get vetted by others.
If what you are saying is true, how would you explain Israel? 80% of the population has been vaccinated, yet Covid is spreading like wildfire and hospitals are overrun. See Harddriver's post above.
 
If what you are saying is true, how would you explain Israel? 80% of the population has been vaccinated, yet Covid is spreading like wildfire and hospitals are overrun. See Harddriver's post above.

Professor Eyal Leshem, an infectious disease specialist at Sheba Medical Center who has been treating patients on Israel’s frontlines, said that while cases were rising, the rate of severe illness remained “substantially lower.”

“We attribute that to the fact that most of our adult population is vaccinated with two doses, and more than one million people have received the third booster dose,” he said.

“The severe disease rates in the vaccinated are about one-tenth of those seen in the unvaccinated, which means the vaccine is still over 90% effective in preventing severe disease,” Leshem added. “People who received the booster dose are also at much, much lower risk of becoming infected, our short-term data shows.”

Yes, data show the infection rates in Israel are high right now. We already know the vaccine does not make you immune.
The vaccine keeps you out of the hospital.

So what's your point with the above posts? The vaccine is bad?

We don't need anyone here to tell everyone this Covid sucker is still out there and it's crazy infectious.
 
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Or the Hawaii nursing homes with 32 vaccine deaths vs. 16 COVID deaths.
 
Yes, data show the infection rates in Israel are high right now. We already know the vaccine does not make you immune.
The vaccine keeps you out of the hospital.

So what's your point with the above posts? The vaccine is bad?

We don't need anyone here to tell everyone this Covid sucker is still out there and it's crazy infectious.
The vaccine doesn't keep you out of the hospital. Read above... well it keeps you out of the hospital if you die before getting there. I guess that's what you mean....
 
The vaccine doesn't keep you out of the hospital. Read above... well it keeps you out of the hospital if you die before getting there. I guess that's what you mean....

You keep framing this like it's either black or white.
You also keep pointing out things about the vaccine using absolute statements like,

- it doesn't work
- it kills people
- it doesn't keep you out of the hospital

You're too biased to have a reasonable discussion.
 
It is black or white in reality.

If the "vaccine" doesn't prevent the taker of the vaccine from getting sick then how is it labeled a "vaccine"? If the logic that is being applied to this "vaccine" were to be applied to anything else it would be labeled an utter failure by the same measuring standards.
 
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