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Go look at the Hebrew. Same word.And where to the birds fly? In English how do you distinguish between space and the atmosphere? Calling it all "the heavens" is very unhelpful and frankly absurd.
Go look at the Hebrew. Same word.And where to the birds fly? In English how do you distinguish between space and the atmosphere? Calling it all "the heavens" is very unhelpful and frankly absurd.
In the sky; the heavens.And where to the birds fly?
I speak English though and not Iron Age Hebrew.In the sky; the heavens.
Heavens is an english word.I speak English though and not Iron Age Hebrew.
So is space, sky and atmosphere.Heavens is an english word.
Summarize your point. Repackaging what was the "heavens" for thousands of years into "space" a 150 years ago as we entered the age of rabid secularism doesn't sell me on the sci fi stuff.So is space, sky and atmosphere.
My point is "The Heavens" is a vague word encompassing the sky, the atmosphere and space which are all subsets. We can be a bit more descriptive and specific than "the heavens" and sometimes you need to be more specific because you can't say the astronauts in the heavens capsule left the heavens and re-entered the heavens and hit a bird flying in the heavens.Summarize your point. Repackaging what was the "heavens" for thousands of years into "space" a 150 years ago as we entered the age of rabid secularism doesn't sell me on the sci fi stuff.
There were probably idiots way before us that tried the same thing we are, hit the van allen belt and got toasted.My point is "The Heavens" is a vague word encompassing the sky, the atmosphere and space which are all subsets. We can be a bit more descriptive and specific than "the heavens" and sometimes you need to be more specific because you can't say the space capsule left the heavens and re-entered the heavens and hit a bit flying the heavens.
Space is also a vague word that is supposed to encompass the universe when heavens does just fine. It's all about repackaging stuff in secular language to further remove religion from thought, from society.My point is "The Heavens" is a vague word encompassing the sky, the atmosphere and space which are all subsets. We can be a bit more descriptive and specific than "the heavens".
You're assuming that those things exist instead of reading what the book says.My point is "The Heavens" is a vague word encompassing the sky, the atmosphere and space which are all subsets. We can be a bit more descriptive and specific than "the heavens" and sometimes you need to be more specific because you can't say the space capsule left the heavens and re-entered the heavens and hit a bird flying in the heavens.
So much for "sola scriptura" eh?You're assuming that those things exist instead of reading what the book says.
Not assuming... knowing.You're assuming that those things exist instead of reading what the book says.
Scripture is silent on it.So much for "sola scriptura" eh?
It is only described as the heavens, never "space" in the bible.Scripture is silent on it.
There is a lot out there, Von. But it is not for us to know. Well, most of us. But is it is vast and beautiful. And even to see it, we cannot comprehend it.Space is also a vague word that is supposed to encompass the universe when heavens does just fine. It's all about repackaging stuff in secular language to further remove religion from thought, from society.
Computers didn't exist when it was written.Scripture is silent on it.
What do you call a computer. It's not mentioned in the scripture.
Neither did space for all intents and purposes because they didn't know about it and that's exactly my point.Computers didn't exist when it was written.
"Space" existed and Genesis etc discuss it.Neither did space because they didn't know about it and that's exactly my point.
Not explicitly. Quote the verse."Space" existed and Genesis etc discuss it.