Proof the Earth is round

[acceptance]

I don't think some of you guys realize how biased you are. Do you really think you would feel as strongly if not for NASA pictures, videos and so on?

 

[311splawndude]

@acceptance and @VonBonfire - I respect the fact that you have different beliefs. I for one have never flat out called either of you wrong. We just have different view points. Yes, I suppose I take some things for granted. I took plenty of science courses, including astronomy, and also grew up going out into the country with my Dad and his telescope to look at the stars and the moon.

It is fairly obvious to me that our planet, the moon, most planets, our sun, most stars, etc are round 3D objects that spin on an axis.

you guys do you guys

 

[acceptance]

It is fairly obvious to me that our planet, the moon, most planets, our sun, most stars, etc are round 3D objects that spin on an axis.

If not for being shown a model of our solar system, and relying solely on your telescope and other senses, do you think you would arrive at the same conclusion with the same degree of confidence?

 

[Dan Gleesak]

It is how it works and I'm not conflating anything. I'm not talking about guesses or speculation. I'm talking about how science works. Newtons Special Gravity was superseded by Einstein's theory of relativity. And I believe that is in the works of being revised in some areas as well. Both of these theories are "stories" that describe natural phenomena. Neither of them are "proven" or "objectively true," even though Newton's calculations still work for calculating the effects of what we call gravity. And I don't think every single person is involved in a cover up. I think probably very few people are.

There would have to be an unimaginable number of people involved if it was a coverup.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I don't think some of you guys realize how biased you are. Do you really think you would feel as strongly if not for NASA pictures, videos and so on?

NASA is not the only space organization. There are many of them, and every single one them will tell you that the earth is round

 

[acceptance]

There would have to be an unimaginable number of people involved if it was a coverup.

I don't think so. Very few people have gone into "space." Most everyone involved in the industry are just launching rockets and looking at video feeds (If that even), like my buddy who designs satellites for a living.

NASA is not the only space organization. There are many of them, and every single one them will tell you that the earth is round

The same point applies. You are ultimately basing your confidence on what these people say given that other models can explain the phenomena we see and experience.

 

[VonBonfire]

@acceptance and @VonBonfire - I respect the fact that you have different beliefs. I for one have never flat out called either of you wrong. We just have different view points. Yes, I suppose I take some things for granted. I took plenty of science courses, including astronomy, and also grew up going out into the country with my Dad and his telescope to look at the stars and the moon.

It is fairly obvious to me that our planet, the moon, most planets, our sun, most stars, etc are round 3D objects that spin on an axis.

you guys do you guys

Did you watch the green screen vids that show the obvious fakery on the ISS?

 

[VonBonfire]

I don't think so. Very few people have gone into "space." Most everyone involved in the industry are just launching rockets and looking at video feeds, like my buddy who designs satellites for a living.

Non disclosure agreements keep it all under wraps. You violate the agreement, you get sued. It was revealed even some of the elite sicko hollywood parties are run this way. You sign an NDA before you get in. Or give a drop of blood. Or take your pants off. Or all three. But you don't hear too many celebs yakking about last weekends shindig now do ya?

That's how they had thousands of people working on the manhattan project and most of them didn't even know what they were working on. NDA's. I'm sure covid scam is the same deal.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

I don't think so. Very few people have gone into "space." Most everyone involved in the industry are just launching rockets and looking at video feeds, like my buddy who designs satellites for a living.

The same point applies. You are ultimately basing your confidence on what these people say given that other models can explain the phenomena we see and experience.

Hundreds of people have been to space. Real life passed the Karman line space. Thousands of more people built the stuff and monitored them getting there, and returning. It’s the most cut and dry proof imaginable. Pictures, videos, personal accounts, paperwork.

And you are incorrect, there is not a single “model” that scientifically explains anything but a round earth. Not even one

 

[acceptance]

And you are incorrect, there is not a single “model” that scientifically explains anything but a round earth. Not even one

What can't be explained with another model? Thumbpicker offered the opposing star rotation in each hemisphere. Do you have one or more as well?

 

[acceptance]

Non disclosure agreements keep it all under wraps. You violate the agreement, you get sued. It was revealed even some of the elite sicko hollywood parties are run this way. You sign an NDA before you get in. Or give a drop of blood. Or take your pants off. Or all three. But you don't hear too many celebs yakking about last weekends shindig now do ya?

That's how they had thousands of people working on the manhattan project and most of them didn't even know what they were working on. NDA's. I'm sure covid scam is the same deal.

I think people underestimate the power of the threat of having your life ruined. Especially for the type of people that go to school to get a good job in aerospace engineering and probably grew up dreaming about space as well. It's just not worth it to be a whistleblower, especially when no one will believe you anyways.

 

[VonBonfire]

I think people underestimate the power of the threat of having your life ruined. Especially for the type of people that go to school to get a good job in aerospace engineering and probably grew up dreaming about space as well. It's just not worth it to be a whistleblower, especially when no one will believe you anyways.

Whistle blowers are always hated because they are a threat to even those who begrudgingly tow the line. They would rather have pay+benefits than honor and integrity. What a shitty way to live.

 

[Thumbpicker]

Maybe I'm wrong but since I recognize that it could be faked — even without the people inside knowing it — then I am skeptical, especially given what else I know about psyops, incentives, money, power and my own experience: I sense with confidence that I am firmly planted on a flat non-rotating plane, not a spinning ball. I don't see any curvature or have a way to measure or detect special invisible forces.

Many countries go to space now so how would it be psyops. Even if you distrust your government it's not all about your country all the time. The circumference of the earth is so big why would you see a curve at ground level. You don't even see a curve on the Moon or Mars and they are far smaller. As I said though earlier the evidence is even in how the stars move. There are so many evidences it's not funny. Eclipses, shadows, where the sun is at different times at various places on earth. You could Skype me during your daytime and I could walk outside my place while you're talking to me and it'll be night.

The reason I'm contemptuous of you two (ie. Von) is because it's all so f'ing stupid I can't believe it.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

What can't be explained with another model? Thumbpicker offered the opposing star rotation in each hemisphere. Do you have one or more as well?

I am asking for a single “other model” that accurately explains our earth and what happens on and around it, that doesn’t say that it’s round.
A round earth explains everything

 

[acceptance]

The reason I'm contemptuous of you two (ie. Von) is because it's all so f'ing stupid I can't believe it.

You shouldn't be contemptuous. You should be humble and simply go back and recheck all your assumptions and calculations and if good engage in good faith with those who disagree or have less knowledge than you do.

- It could be psyops because countries can collude just like mafia groups collude — even if they are "enemies".
- The curve issues have been addressed. No one can see a curve. We are all trusting the pictures and testimony of those in space.
- I will follow up on the star issue. I think it's a reasonable argument. Maybe it will convince me that we live on a spinning ball!
- Eclipses and day/night can be easily explained by other means.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

Whistle blowers are always hated because they are a threat to even those who begrudgingly tow the line. They would rather have pay+benefits than honor and integrity. What a shitty way to live.

Like a dozen men have walked on the moon, and they are all old as shit, or dead. It’s unthinkable that none of them has said a single thing about it being the biggest cover up in modern history.

 

[acceptance]

I am asking for a single “other model” that accurately explains our earth and what happens on and around it, that doesn’t say that it’s round.
A round earth explains everything

Yeah I'd like to find one too. I'm not sure that a globe earth explains everything. Even if it did doesn't mean it's necessarily true.

 

[Ben Waylin]

Like a dozen men have walked on the moon, and they are all old as shit, or dead. It’s unthinkable that none of them has said a single thing about it being the biggest cover up in modern history.

That's what Gus Grissom said.

 

[Dan Gleesak]

You shouldn't be contemptuous. You should be humble and simply go back and recheck all your assumptions and calculations and if good engage in good faith with those who disagree or have less knowledge than you do.

- It could be psyops because countries can collude just like mafia groups collude — even if they are "enemies".
- The curve issues have been addressed. No one can see a curve. We are all trusting the pictures and testimony of those in space.
- I will follow up on the star issue. I think it's a reasonable argument. Maybe it will convince me that we live on a spinning ball!
- Eclipses and day/night can be easily explained by other means.

People that are in space circumnavigate the globe several times a day. Seeing the curve is no big deal when you literally travel around the planet

Eclipses cannot be easily explained by any other means. I’m sure people can come up with one off explanations about events on the planet, but they only account for the single event, they are never all encompassing or as mind bogglingly simple as the earth simply being round

 

[VonBonfire]

Like a dozen men have walked on the moon, and they are all old as shit, or dead. It’s unthinkable that none of them has said a single thing about it being the biggest cover up in modern history.

Why would they torpedo their own career by coming out with the truth later? Those are all people with very high security clearances, deceit is part of the job even if the space program was 100 percent real. That's something to consider.