Proof the Earth is round

[acceptance]

And the proof it isn't is obscure fairytales from 2000 years ago.

It's such a ridiculous idea that we're spinning around on a ball that I don't even think one needs to disprove it. But for one thing, you can't see any curve. On the other hand, you can see skylines that you shouldn't be able to see if the earth was curved. You can't feel any spinning or detect any movement. And to top it off, the whole ridiculous idea hinges on an invisible energy or force that you can't directly detect like you can directly detect radio waves for example. All of it is just goofy.

 

[acceptance]

And I have more respect for the knowledge of the ancients than others might. They built the pyramids after all.

 

[VonBonfire]

Its funny that pictures will satisfy the secular mind with regard to ball earth but the testimony of the saints and martyrs will not satisfy the secular mind with regard to our Lord and Savior. This is part of why I reject the silly, yet boldly arrogant claims, of modern science and their idea that we exist in some kind of pagan heliocentric universe. It's religion for lab coat geeks and it still requires faith in the documents that forms it's basis.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Fuck. Can't we go back to ripping on Australia ?

 

[VonBonfire]

 

[311splawndude]

Fuck. Can't we go back to ripping on Australia ?

Right?

It's on the opposite side of the fucking ball Earth.

 

[Monkey Man]

Right?

It's on the opposite side of the fucking ball Earth.

That's how we know earth's not flat - I do the night shift, which is actually the day shift.

 

[MontiCristo]

You are a case study in reading your own biases into the Bible and then claiming it objectively says what you think it does. The ancient Hebrews did not believe Earth is a spinning ball. Jesus almost assuredly did not believe that either.

I honestly don't understand how you can come to the position that I am "objectively claiming it says what it does".
It does say what it does. The text is clear. It would be more honest for you to say you don't believe it's accurate.
You're just not operating in good faith, and that makes it hard to communicate with you.

Are you honestly telling me that the text I shared with you above does not say that Jesus created all things?

 

[acceptance]

I honestly don't understand how you can come to the position that I am "objectively claiming it says what it does".
It does say what it does. The text is clear.

You are convinced your interpretation of the text is somehow objectively correct.

Are you honestly telling me that the text I shared with you above does not say that Jesus created all things?

I wasn't arguing that.

 

[311splawndude]

@acceptance or @VonBonfire want to take a stab at this or maybe I was ignored Or maybe the tread was just moving too fast

Side question for you guys.

Do you believe or mistrust:

That the Mariana Trench is as deep as 36,000 feet?
That plate tectonics are real?
That the center of the sun can reach 27,000,000 degrees F
That chlorophyll in leaves breaks down causing them to change colors in Fall?
That man crossed the ice age land bridge to North America over 12,000 years ago?

 

[acceptance]

@acceptance or @VonBonfire want to take a stab at this or maybe I was ignored Or maybe the tread was just moving too fast

I don't really have any views on those topics as I haven't studied then. In general though I'm skeptical about claims of things that supposedly happened 12,000 years ago, or that we somehow know the temperature in the core of the Sun, which by the way sounds stupid hot. As for the Mariana trench, I assume we have the means to directly measure it, so it doesn't immediately strike me as questionable.

 

[VonBonfire]

@acceptance or @VonBonfire want to take a stab at this or maybe I was ignored Or maybe the tread was just moving too fast

Mariana trench 36000 feet? Maybe, unless there are unexplored areas deeper.

Plate tectonics is a theory, that's it. I don't have an opinion.

Temperature of suns core is highly speculative.

Live oaks don't lose their leaves until spring in a lot of cases so not sure about that one.

Man probably did cross a land bridge during more frozen times but I also think migration was possible using log rafts riding trade winds as demonstrated by Thor Heyerdahl in his book "Kon Tiki". The movie is pretty good too but I don't think it's in english.

 

[MontiCristo]

You are convinced your interpretation of the text is somehow objectively correct.

I wasn't arguing that.

so which is it? You made the claim above that "Jesus almost assuredly didn't believe the earth was a sphere".
by what standard are you measuring that claim? How can that be proven? Where are you deriving that idea?

The bible does say Jesus created everything in existence. That includes the earth, so there is no doubt He knows what it looks like.

 

[Thumbpicker]

so which is it? You made the claim above that "Jesus almost assuredly didn't believe the earth was a sphere".
by what standard are you measuring that claim? How can that be proven? Where are you deriving that idea?

The bible does say Jesus created everything in existence. That includes the earth, so there is no doubt He knows what it looks like.

Well God created all things and Jesus is one of the persons of God is maybe how I'd put that.

 

[MontiCristo]

Well God created all things and Jesus is one of the persons of God is maybe how I'd put that.

Yessir, this was already covered in the scripture I cited.

Col 1: 14-16

14in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
The Firstborn of All Creation
15Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.
16For in Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.
17¶And He is before all things,
And in Him all things hold together.
18And He is the head of the body, the church

 

[MadAsAHatter]

That plate tectonics are real?

 

[MontiCristo]

Elon Musk knows the Earth is spheroidal

 

[VonBonfire]

Well God created all things and Jesus is one of the persons of God is maybe how I'd put that.

My understanding was God said "let there be light" and that light is Christ, which matches with John "in the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God". Everything proceeds from him in the creation story.

 

[VonBonfire]

Elon Musk knows the Earth is spheroidal

I don't believe anyone ever went beyond high orbit. Even where "space" starts is in dispute.

 

[acceptance]

so which is it? You made the claim above that "Jesus almost assuredly didn't believe the earth was a sphere".
by what standard are you measuring that claim? How can that be proven? Where are you deriving that idea?

The bible does say Jesus created everything in existence. That includes the earth, so there is no doubt He knows what it looks like.

I am not disputing that he would know the shape of the earth. But you think because you "know" it's a spinning ball, so did he. I say with confidence that he would have rather believed in the Hebrew conception of the earth because he was a Hebrew (if he existed at all).