Proof the Earth is round

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acceptance said:
Thumbpicker doesn't know how much Jesus knew or not. Anyways, the "Bible" doesn't say he created the earth, a book or two in the new testament mention it. Regardless, don't you think he might have wanted to correct the record about something so fundamental?
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Christ is the "light" created in Genesis. That's how plants could survive before there was a sun, which wasn't created until the 4th day.
 
Thumbpicker said:
So Edison made a working light bulb by consorting with demons.
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I'm not saying every invention was spawned by demons. But all the things I listed were originally given to man by demonic beings.

The nazis had much more advanced weapons than anyone else and were deep into the occult. Post WWII we bring their experts here via operation paperclip and now we have all the advanced tech. Even pioneering rocket scientist Jack Parsons was deep into occultism and satanism.
 
acceptance said:
Thumbpicker doesn't know how much Jesus knew or not. Anyways, the "Bible" doesn't say he created the earth, a book or two in the new testament mention it. Regardless, don't you think he might have wanted to correct the record about something so fundamental?
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The Bible doesn't say what he know when he was in human form. He predicted some things in the future like the destruction of the Temple and he'd be betrayed. It's not something that matters to salvation. He may have known he may not have known. As one of the persons of God he would certainly know when he's in spiritual form. We won't know everything this side of heaven.
 
VonBonfire said:
Christ is the "light" created in Genesis. That's how plants could survive before there was a sun, which wasn't created until the 4th day.
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I know Christians argue Jesus can be found in the Hebrew bible.
 
acceptance said:
That's your belief. They are arguing that is not true, or not quite as represented anyways.
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You can argue all cats are really purple with turquoise polka dots but that doesn't make it valid position to hold that is debatable. It's just f'n crazy.
 
acceptance said:
What's your best example of this? I am familiar with most if not all claimed references to Jesus in the OT.
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Exodus says Moses spoke with God face to face, as one man speaks to another Exodus 33:11. A few verses later it says "no one can look upon the face of God and live". Exodus 33:20. An apparent contradiction that only makes sense when we realize that the "God" Moses spoke to was Christ, as we can only know God through him. We can take a deep dive but it's probably better suited to the God thread.
 
Thumbpicker said:
You can argue all cats are really purple with turquoise polka dots but that doesn't make it valid position to hold that is debatable. It's just f'n crazy.
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It's not about arguing anything, it's about providing sufficient evidence to substantiate a claim. Good god you have the mind of a child.
 
VonBonfire said:
Exodus says Moses spoke with God face to face, as one man speaks to another Exodus 33:11. A few verses later it says "no one can look upon the face of God and live". Exodus 33:20. An apparent contradiction that only makes sense when we realize that the "God" Moses spoke to was Christ, as we can only know God through him. We can take a deep dive but it's probably better suited to the God thread.
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I haven't heard it understood that way before. Is this an orthodox view?
 
acceptance said:
Thumbpicker doesn't know how much Jesus knew or not. Anyways, the "Bible" doesn't say he created the earth, a book or two in the new testament mention it. Regardless, don't you think he might have wanted to correct the record about something so fundamental?
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Incorrect. The bible clearly states that Jesus made all things. Everything.
I have already provided you with the text confirming this and it clearly contains the words "everything" and "all things".
There is no disputing the bible teaches Jesus created all things.
 
acceptance said:
I haven't heard it understood that way before. Is this an orthodox view?
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I don't know. I'd have to ask my priest about it but it seems pretty self explanatory for Christian believers since it does say God dictated the Torah to him on Mt. Sinai. Otherwise it's a massive contradiction within a few verses of each other.
 
acceptance said:
I know Christians argue Jesus can be found in the Hebrew bible.
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Well, Jude clearly states it was Jesus who delivered the Hebrews out of the land of Egypt.
But I'm sure you'll imply some gymnastics and try to say this doesn't say what it says it does.

'Now I want to remind you, though you know all things, that Jesus, having once saved a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. '

Jude 1:5
https://www.bible.com/bible/3345/JUD.1.5
 
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