Thumbpicker
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Well in the case of Judas the betrayal occurred before the new covenant was in force so he was still under the old covenant right?I don't claim anything. The very term "saved" is a past tense verb and participle. I'm teaching you what the bible says. Jesus said none will be snatched from His hands. Are you saying He was a liar? Was Judas snatched from His hand and He could do nothing about it?
BTW, only one can say "Jesus is Lord in the Holy Spirit" not natural man and certainly not a man used by Satan to accomplish God's will (Judas).
by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. 1Corinthians 12:3
So based on Christ's words above, are you still holding the position that Judas was a Christian?
Him having "walked with God" means nothing of the disposition and inner working of His heart. In the end, it's clear He was not a true believer.
. 19They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they were of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be manifested that they all are not of us. 1 John 2:19
Given his entrails spilled out I don't think God was very pleased with him though ;-)
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