Proof there is a God

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MontiCristo said:
yea man, the bible doesn't contain the obituary of every human listed there.

are you saying Mary did not die?
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I'm saying you made a claim she died but can't provide a scriptural source for your claim, so you just make stuff up. So you have a problem if it's all about what is found in the pages of your bible. You're missing info that orthodoxy provides.
 
MontiCristo said:
yea man, the bible doesn't contain the obituary of every human listed there.

are you saying Mary did not die?
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it's not even close to the same thing because I'm not making the ridiculous claim that anyone in the bible was sinless.
you are.

you have to back that claim up.
and you can't.
 
VonBonfire said:
I'm saying you made a claim she died but can't provide a scriptural source for your claim, so you just make stuff up. So you have a problem if it's all about what is found in the pages of your bible. You're missing info that orthodoxy provides.
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ok so if "orthodoxy" provides the info

LET US SEE IT
SHOW US WHERE IT SAYS MARY NEVER SINNNED
 
VonBonfire said:
Then your answer was non biblical, wrong, and heretical.

So far you aren't doing very good with your one viewer, acceptance. I think he is open minded enough to realize that holy tradition plays a part of early christianity whereas you are in complete denial stuck in your sola scriptura heresy.
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The whole reason for the reformation was because people like Luther looked at the practices of the Catholic and Orthodox Churches and saw they weren't practicing what the Bible preached.
 
MontiCristo said:
it's not even close to the same thing because I'm not making the ridiculous claim that anyone in the bible was sinless.
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You're saying she died and can't provide a scriptural source. So you're lying cause it isn't in the bible.
 
This has reached the point of comic relief now.
I've refuted your silly claims so many times it's becoming ridiculous.
bow out man, go away and live out your fantasy world.
 
MontiCristo said:
Ok man.

"hey everyone, I'm right, you're wrong. The writings of the early church fathers has ultimate authority. I can't show you what these writings are, or produce anything corroborating or validating them, you're just going to have to take my word for it". Oh and btw it's a matter of life and death, and involves the eternal resting place of your soul".

good luck with that.
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No, you're saying 'I'm right and you're wrong.' ...You're arguing col 2:8 precludes tradition and the writings of the church fathers which it doesn't.
 
Thumbpicker said:
The whole reason for the reformation was because people like Luther looked at the practices of the Catholic and Orthodox Churches and saw they weren't practicing what the Bible preached.
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correct and when Martin nailed his 95 thesis on that castle door in Wittenberg Germany the masses were opened up to God's word. No longer could weak ineffectual men hide behind the corrupt church.
 
MontiCristo said:
This has reached the point of comic relief now.
I've refuted your silly claims so many times it's becoming ridiculous.
bow out man, go away and live out your fantasy world.
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You called me a cannibal, just like a roman pagans called the early beleivers. I see you nicely dodged that one as it's inconvenient to your sola scriptura heresy.
 
acceptance said:
No, you're saying 'I'm right and you're wrong. 'You're arguing col 2:8 precludes tradition and the writings of the church fathers which it doesn't.
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dude can you read? no i'm not, i'm saying the text says if the traditions aren't in line with Christ they are to be thrown out.

and the teaching that Mary is sinless is not in line with Christ.
 
MontiCristo said:
translation "I can't provide it"
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I have it pulled up on another tab now. I just don't feel like providing it to you until you explain why roman pagans called early christians cannibals. I also would like to see your scriptural source for the death of Mary, since it is you claiming that is what happened.

See, little by little your heretical beliefs are picked apart by the truth.
 
VonBonfire said:
You called me a cannibal, just like a roman pagans called the early beleivers. I see you nicely dodged that one as it's inconvenient to your sola scriptura heresy.
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I'll ask you again.
do you believe that when you take the Lords Supper you are ingesting ACTUAL PHYSICAL HUMAN FLESH AND BLOOD.

real simple.
yes or no.
 
MontiCristo said:
dude can you read? no i'm not, i'm saying the text says if the traditions aren't in line with Christ they are to be thrown out.

and the teaching that Mary is sinless is not in line with Christ.
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And Orthodoxy says the traditions and writings of the church fathers are in line with christ. 🤷‍♂️
 
VonBonfire said:
I have it pulled up on another tab now. I just don't feel like providing it to you until you explain why roman pagans called early christians cannibals. I also would like to see your scriptural source for the death of Mary, since it is you claiming that is what happened.

See, little by little your heretical beliefs are picked apart by the truth.
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I've already showed you 8 times that the bible says ALL HAVE SINNED apart from Jesus Christ.
of the two of us I have validated my claims repeatedly. You on the other hand have provided zero support for the false claim of Mary's supposed sinlessness.

it's just crazy, mary was sinless but Jesus is her savior. .... it's oxymoronic.
 
acceptance said:
No, you're saying 'I'm right and you're wrong.' ...You're arguing col 2:8 precludes tradition and the writings of the church fathers which it doesn't.
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Paul def told us to keep the traditions that were handed us (speaking of those taught by the early church fathers).

2 Thess 2 15
 
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