OP, while I and presumably we as a whole, appreciate the clips and recording details you often share, you've got to tone it down with the whole "if it's not widely used in modern metal circles then its practically useless garbage" rhetoric. I don't think the majority here view modern metal (say, post 2000) production as their personal pinnacle of sonic excellence. I'm dying to know, what are your top 3 modern metal productions and/or guitar tones? Let's establish a reference point. If you're merely going to list something with typewriter kicks, gridlocked performances and heavily gated guitar tracks, well maybe just don't lol.
Now, before you retort with, "I never said this or that", well you've been heavily inferring this basic view of modern metal production as being some type of gold standard that justifiably eschews otherwise highly regarded amps as lesser than and over hyped, simply by exclusion. Most of the artists in this genre have limited financial resources so they play what they can get their hands on. And a significant number probably aren't even gear heads enough to bother going on forums and finding out about boutique or rare stuff. There's no way in hell that for every 5150 used in a modern metal recording, that if a C+ was also available, the ratio would remain the same regarding what ended up being used. If that was the case, wouldn't your Morin modded Marshall have even less pedigree than a C+? At least the C+ has Master of Puppets to it's credit as a famous example of coveted tone.
Rant over. Now have yourself a sunshiny filled day.
OP, while I and presumably we as a whole, appreciate the clips and recording details you often share, you've got to tone it down with the whole "if it's not widely used in modern metal circles then its practically useless garbage" rhetoric. I don't think the majority here view modern metal (say, post 2000) production as their personal pinnacle of sonic excellence. I'm dying to know, what are your top 3 modern metal productions and/or guitar tones? Let's establish a reference point. If you're merely going to list something with typewriter kicks, gridlocked performances and heavily gated guitar tracks, well maybe just don't lol.
Now, before you retort with, "I never said this or that", well you've been heavily inferring this basic view of modern metal production as being some type of gold standard that justifiably eschews otherwise highly regarded amps as lesser than and over hyped, simply by exclusion. Most of the artists in this genre have limited financial resources so they play what they can get their hands on. And a significant number probably aren't even gear heads enough to bother going on forums and finding out about boutique or rare stuff. There's no way in hell that for every 5150 used in a modern metal recording, that if a C+ was also available, the ratio would remain the same regarding what ended up being used. If that was the case, wouldn't your Morin modded Marshall have even less pedigree than a C+? At least the C+ has Master of Puppets to it's credit as a famous example of coveted tone.
Rant over. Now have yourself a sunshiny filled day.
Well since you all intended to make this otherwise tongue in cheek thread from 7 months ago a thing and won’t let it die, I’ll play….
If you expect me not to say “ well I didn’t say that”, then tone it down with the hyperbole on an other wise harmless fun thread, until recently. I didn’t say the amp was garbage, for the last time. I stand by the fact it’s completely overhyped, and there isn’t anything anyone in this thread that is going to change my opinion on that. And guess what? That’s ok, it’s my opinion. You are entitled to yours 100 percent as well! I simply just give reasons I feel a certain way about something, instead of just saying like many do “ xyz amp sucks”, or “ABC amp sounds killer!”. If someone gives me their opinion on something, I’m all ears and love to hear different peoples opinions, that’s what this whole forum is about after all. Don’t like my opinion? Don’t read the thread, or don’t bump a dead thread from 7 months ago, there’s a thought. I realize this wasn’t you, but it obviously needs to be said.
I’m well aware many don’t consider the last 20 years the pinnacle of modern metal production, and guess what; NEITHER DO I. I’m just pointing out all the people all over the internet who swear this is the greatest amp ever for modern metal, yet no one uses it for modern metal. I’m sorry but it’s just a fact. You all can come up with all the reasons in the world why you think it’s not used ( money, lack of caring to find, availability, whatever), but the reality is, if it was that great for that genre of music, it would be used. You think a 2c+ is hard to find? Why do people fly all over the world to go to certain studios, or use certain pieces of gear etc? People will do that, but they won’t fork out 5-7k for the greatest amp ever? Ok…. Sure. If it’s a money thing, why aren’t these bands all playing crates? Just about every decently successful metal band is touring with Atleast 5-10k worth of gear, or owns as much etc.
As far as my morin Marshall: mike morins amps have been on vastly more records than just about anyone in the “modded Marshall” game( Dave Friedman, suhr, Rivera etc) I’m sure you won’t believe that either, but it’s also a fact. But then again, I don’t care in the least if people love it, use it, or don’t. I love it, regardless of who has or hasn’t used it, just like you all with 2C+’s are and should be. Pedigree or lack there of is of no influence on me. I mean,judging by this thread, I’m the antithesis of it. I use what sounds great to me, and I don’t justify my purchases like many have and do, myself included. If you poked fun at me for it and said “well, no one used them!”… well, that is just completely untrue, unlike the mark 2C+
I didn’t bump this thread from the grave, let it die if it gets all of your panties in a bunch.
