Suhr SE-100 HW Head

[ejecta]

Sorry, there is no need to pay that much for a Marshall clone. I'm sure the components are top notch, but there are dozens of other amps that can do the same thing at a fraction of the cost. I'm not a walmart buyer by any means, but I just don't see any reason to buy this amp.

This. There becomes a point of dimensioning returns with price and tone. I've been through waaaaaaay too many amps to know that for me $3000+ amps do not sound a $1000 to $2000 better than other options.

No offense to people like Steve who I really admire for working real hard to do what he and Mr Suhr have done by bringing their ideas and designs to market. I'm sure they price it for what they feel it's worth and obviously some people are willing to pay but for me..... no way I'll ever spend that much again on an amp or guitar for that matter. More power to those who do and feel it's worth it though.

 

[ttosh]

There becomes a point of dimensioning returns with price and tone.

This is why some people drive fords and some Mercedes, BMW, Porsche, etc....

 

[lester]

They got around to turning the gain up. Damn.

 

[steve_k]

Fortunately for John, his target audience is not the "practical Rig Talk consumer" for his line of amps. Just like his guitars - sure it's overpriced for the average guy. It's a brand thing and you can be assured if the authenticity of "that" tone, in a single channel workhorse, top shelf quality amp - if that is what you are after for whatever reason. It is what it is though. John does not have a facility to mass produce amps, nor farm it out to the Chinese, where cost savings can be passed on to you. With everything being assembled in house, this drives up cost, plus profit and dealer mark up.

 

[lespaul6]

Every Suhr demo I see the bass is set very low or off... sounds like the amp has way more bass than a Marshall? I hate that tone personally, all sub lows and no real hard mid knock. Has anyone played through one of these?

 

[TrueTone500]

I don't think you guys get it. The amp's only a grand. The Suhr logo costs $2200. Make sense now?

 

[brusky]

wow

 

[IntenseJim]

I have not read the whole thread so this may be redundant but....

Suhr may be pricing the head for him and not for you. That is, it take a lot of time to build this amp. If Suhr is going to take time out of a very busy successful diversified occupation to build this, it has to be cost efficient and profitable. One may then ask why offer it? Because Suhr is passionate about tone and quality. And it may be fun for him to wire up this labor of love too.

...just my guestimation.

 

[TrueTone500]

Suhr brought Guy Hedrick on-board to design and build amps for him, and talent like that does not come cheap. Add Jim Kelly into the mix, and your talking "supergroup" of amp builders!

 

[steve_k]

Suhr brought Guy Hedrick on-board to design and build amps for him, and talent like that does not come cheap. Add Jim Kelly into the mix, and your talking "supergroup" of amp builders!

Yep, that's quite a trio. Almost like the Suhr/Golub/Bradshaw trio back in the day.

 

[1meanplexi]

I have a PT100 and worth every penny spent, for now it is not the flavor of the month to my pallet so it is sitting covered in my living room. $300.00 Walmart (well done Steve) or 3 grand? who cares, if either one sounds to good to your ears and price is not subjective???? Go with it.

 

[Shark Diver]

OK Guys here is the deal. John has done mods for some of the greatest rock and roll guitar players in the world not to mention a holy grail amp for Clapton back in the day. I can think of several of my top 20 songs that have Johns amps/mods on them. Eddie Vanhalen f.u.c.k. comes to mind, Doug Aldrich on his Live Dio dvd was amazing.Most if not all of the winger albums from the beginning( I Love Reb Beach!) Many of Steve Stevens Live and solo albums had John's magic sprinkled on them. Megadeth when Marty was onboard CAE preamp all over it.(SE tone) And sure back in the day when John was starting out his Suhr business he had time to mod a Marshall from time to time, but that all stopped when his business caught on and every cylinder was firing. He then stopped modding and started designing several new amps and guitars and hasn't stopped to take a breath since. This is the first opportunity for us to have John himself sit down and take time out of his crazy day tohandwire an amp that is bulletproof and will always sound amazing. This is a one CH amp, he has an entire production line of amps that offer multi channel switching and soon to be midi and the best loop in the business. Anyway this is not an amp for everyone, but if you want the exact tone he has built into the Marshall's weve seen on gigs we can only dream about then this is the one! I enjoy a lot of different kinds of music and a lot of different kinds of amps to play them thru. This is John's take on what rock thru his eyes and apparently thru the ears of a lot of my inspirations should be. Not an old unreliable Marshall with mods this is an entire build from scratch handwired so clean you could eat off the chassis. If it's for you, you probably are already scrambling to come up with a way to fund one. If not stay tuned to discover an amp that has your style. John is not even getting warmed up and although I know of some of what he has in mind I can't even imagine what the future will hold at Suhr.

+1 Waiting on the new PT - that will be great from the clips I've heard.

 

[joepete77]

Every Suhr demo I see the bass is set very low or off... sounds like the amp has way more bass than a Marshall? I hate that tone personally, all sub lows and no real hard mid knock. Has anyone played through one of these?

Yeah, i notice that tone with the heavy bass and thick lows is popular with some builders but I really don't care much for that tone if it can't be dialed out. I would still like to try one of these out though.

 

[LP Freak]

Every Suhr demo I see the bass is set very low or off... sounds like the amp has way more bass than a Marshall? I hate that tone personally, all sub lows and no real hard mid knock. Has anyone played through one of these?

Yeah, i notice that tone with the heavy bass and thick lows is popular with some builders but I really don't care much for that tone if it can't be dialed out. I would still like to try one of these out though.

Those thick mids are signature to all the Suhr amps I've had.

 

[steve_k]

Every Suhr demo I see the bass is set very low or off... sounds like the amp has way more bass than a Marshall? I hate that tone personally, all sub lows and no real hard mid knock. Has anyone played through one of these?

Yeah, i notice that tone with the heavy bass and thick lows is popular with some builders but I really don't care much for that tone if it can't be dialed out. I would still like to try one of these out though.

Wasn't there a depth control on the back? Maybe the clips had it riding pretty high. Any amp I buy has to be capable of carrying some bottom end. I love stepping all over the bass players sonic space.... But, yeah....the amp needs to be set up in such a way to dial such things out if that is what you are after. I would imagine it is possible with this amp. At the end of the day, this amp will be a version of channel 3 of the OD SE+ with component substitutions and being handwired, but without the miles of circuitry between input and output.

 

[joepete77]

Every Suhr demo I see the bass is set very low or off... sounds like the amp has way more bass than a Marshall? I hate that tone personally, all sub lows and no real hard mid knock. Has anyone played through one of these?

Yeah, i notice that tone with the heavy bass and thick lows is popular with some builders but I really don't care much for that tone if it can't be dialed out. I would still like to try one of these out though.

Wasn't there a depth control on the back? Maybe the clips had it riding pretty high. Any amp I buy has to be capable of carrying some bottom end. I love stepping all over the bass players sonic space.... But, yeah....the amp needs to be set up in such a way to dial such things out if that is what you are after. I would imagine it is possible with this amp. At the end of the day, this amp will be a version of channel 3 of the OD SE+ with component substitutions and being handwired, but without the miles of circuitry between input and output.

Yeah, I would imagine it could be dialed in however. Some of the dookie or crunch modded amps I have heard have that thick bottom also. Would like to hear more clips of this though.

 

[steve_k]

Every Suhr demo I see the bass is set very low or off... sounds like the amp has way more bass than a Marshall? I hate that tone personally, all sub lows and no real hard mid knock. Has anyone played through one of these?

Yeah, i notice that tone with the heavy bass and thick lows is popular with some builders but I really don't care much for that tone if it can't be dialed out. I would still like to try one of these out though.

Wasn't there a depth control on the back? Maybe the clips had it riding pretty high. Any amp I buy has to be capable of carrying some bottom end. I love stepping all over the bass players sonic space.... But, yeah....the amp needs to be set up in such a way to dial such things out if that is what you are after. I would imagine it is possible with this amp. At the end of the day, this amp will be a version of channel 3 of the OD SE+ with component substitutions and being handwired, but without the miles of circuitry between input and output.

Yeah, I would imagine it could be dialed in however. Some of the dookie or crunch modded amps I have heard have that thick bottom also. Would like to hear more clips of this though.

Martin's Aldrich Lead mod doesn't have a depth control on it. He probably does dial in a bit more bottom end on the circuitry. I am trying to remember if the original Suhr mod that I used to own had one on it or not. I believe it did. Mark's Aldrich amps do.

 

[rupe]

Anybody who's familiar with John Suhr's resume knows he's the real deal...one of the very few "elite" guitar/amp guys on the planet. How many others can say that they've been under the hood of as many famous player's amps as John? Not many.
When a guy of that caliber builds an amp, he can charge a premium for it...he's earned the right to so. If nobody's buying them, I'm sure the price will fall to reflect that...anybody know when the last was that Suhr amp pricing fell?

You want an amp that was handwired by a guy who was trusted by EVH to poke around under the hood? It's available, but prepare to pay a premium for it...as it should be. Don't value that expertise and experience and want your hot-rodded Marshall tone on the cheap? Call Billy Blades.

 

[LP Freak]

I will say that his amps are bullet proof.

 

[steve_k]

Anybody who's familiar with John Suhr's resume knows he's the real deal...one of the very few "elite" guitar/amp guys on the planet. How many others can say that they've been under the hood of as many famous player's amps as John? Not many.
When a guy of that caliber builds an amp, he can charge a premium for it...he's earned the right to so. If nobody's buying them, I'm sure the price will fall to reflect that...anybody know when the last was that Suhr amp pricing fell?

You want an amp that was handwired by a guy who was trusted by EVH to poke around under the hood? It's available, but prepare to pay a premium for it...as it should be. Don't value that expertise and experience and want your hot-rodded Marshall tone on the cheap? Call Billy Blades.

Let's not forget the cup-holder mod, Bill.....