Proof there is a God

[VonBonfire]

easy

Except he suggests holding to the traditions handed down (from the early church). He even talks about the blessed cup of blessings, which is the orthodox cup of communion. You guys are well meaning but totally misguided.

 

[MontiCristo]

Except he suggests holding to the traditions handed down (from the early church). He even talks about the blessed cup of blessings, which is the orthodox cup of communion. You guys are well meaning but totally misguided.

No sir, I already showed you the versus before you cherry picked yours. Paul wanted to know one thing and one thing only - Christ Crucified.

 

[VonBonfire]

uh, no. Counsel after counsel have refuted your claims on Mary.

You're just wrong.

 

[VonBonfire]

No sir, I already showed you the versus before you cherry picked yours. Paul wanted to know one thing and one thing only - Christ Crucified.

Paul was orthodox, like every Christian living in his day.

 

[MontiCristo]

You're just wrong.

You’re never going to get anywhere with me or any Protestant Christian by appealing to the “traditions of men”.

You’re going to have to produce scripture, a task you have not been able to complete

 

[MontiCristo]

You're just wrong.

Paul was orthodox, like every Christian living in his day.

And yet Paul never mentions Mary ?

 

[VonBonfire]

You’re never going to get anywhere with me or any Protestant Christin by appealing to the “traditions of men”.

I did. In 2 thess Paul says keep the traditions we handed you whether they be by word or by epistle. That's clear enough.

 

[Thumbpicker]

I did. In 2 thess Paul says keep the traditions we handed you whether they be by word or by epistle. That's clear enough.

"we handed you" meaning Paul and the Apostles.

It doesn't say, keep making it up as you go along after we go to be with the Lord.

 

[VonBonfire]

"we handed you" meaning Paul and the Apostles.

Correct, all the people who founded the orthodox church.

 

[MontiCristo]

I did. In 2 thess Paul says keep the traditions we handed you whether they be by word or by epistle. That's clear enough.

??‍ what do the versus before that say?
Post them here so we can look at them AGAIN.

What traditions is he speaking of?

Then look at Galatians 1:8 where he mentioned someone being accursed for bringing another gospel. Basically man, sorry to tell you, Paul is saying you are anathema for what you are spouting here

 

[MontiCristo]

Correct, all the people who founded the orthodox church.

No wrong again
Meaning the gospel of Jesus Christ

 

[Thumbpicker]

I did. In 2 thess Paul says keep the traditions we handed you whether they be by word or by epistle. That's clear enough.

Take a photocopying machine.

make a Copy of a picture,

Then make a copy of the copy

and keep making copies of copies.

Eventually you'll end up with mud.

 

[MontiCristo]

No wrong again
Meaning the gospel of Jesus Christ

What “epistles” do you think he’s referring to? There were no “epistles” in the OT.
These are NT letters to churches (most he started) on the foundation of the gospel.

 

[Thumbpicker]

No wrong again
Meaning the gospel of Jesus Christ

Yes the letters he and the other apostles wrote.

 

[MontiCristo]

Yes the letters he and the other apostles wrote.

Absolutely correct
Peter later refers to Paul’s writings as “scripture” can’t remember the verse now , he was saying Paul was hard to understand. I’ll find it, hang tight

 

[311boogieman]

I've interacted with you on several occasions with you and have enjoyed it my friend. I'm not being contentious, but It's not anyone's position to defend God. We aren't going to put the Lord on trial here and somehow try and prove His existence. I know you mean well and are just starting the conversation but with all do respect asking for a defense of God's existence is like a fish asking for the existence of water. Everyone is fully aware that God exists, problem is they hate Him and want nothing to do with Him.

That's a fair assessment. I don't hate anyone, let alone a God. Yes, my thread title and OP were rather trollish. Certainly didn't mean to be disrespectful. My apologies if it was too much. I respect your beliefs man. Carry on.

 

[VonBonfire]

What traditions is he speaking of?

All those that relate to orthodox christianity in practice and theology.

 

[VonBonfire]

Take a photocopying machine.

make a Copy of a picture,

Then make a copy of the copy

and keep making copies of copies.

Eventually you'll end up with mud.

Protestantism is that mud.

 

[MontiCristo]

Absolutely correct
Peter later refers to Paul’s writings as “scripture” can’t remember the verse now , he was saying Paul was hard to understand. I’ll find it, hang tight

Here itnis
2Pet 3:15-16




15 and consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you,


16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.





Legacy Standard Bible. 2022. Three Sixteen Publishing.

 

[Thumbpicker]

What “epistles” do you think he’s referring to? There were no “epistles” in the OT.
These are NT letters to churches (most he started) on the foundation of the gospel.

I said the Apostles wrote the Epistles... That's basically right.

Epistles and their author as included in the New Testament:
Romans - Apostle Paul

• 1 Corinthians - Apostle Paul
• 2 Corinthians - Apostle Paul
• Galatians - Apostle Paul
• Ephesians - Apostle Paul
• Philippians - Apostle Paul
• Colossians - Apostle Paul
• 1 Thessalonians - Apostle Paul
• 2 Thessalonians - Apostle Paul
• 1 Timothy - Apostle Paul
• 2 Timothy - Apostle Paul
• Titus - Apostle Paul
• Philemon - Apostle Paul
• Hebrews - Apostle Paul
• James - Apostle James
• 1 Peter - Apostle Peter
• 2 Peter - Apostle Peter
• 1 John - Apostle John
• 2 John - Apostle John
• 3 John - Apostle John
• Jude - Apostle Jude