Proof there is a God

Thumbpicker said:
Well if you actually dug into "that book" you'd see that a lot of prophecy was fulfilled by Jesus. You'd also know if you did your homework that Jesus was a real historical person with accounts of him from secular sources eg. the Roman Flavius Josephus. If you get past the point where you realise the book isn't fiction you'll find plenty more proof that Jesus was who he said he was and being part of the trinity (which is a just a term to describe who God is) it proves God exists. To get to that point you have to put certain preconceived notions and suspend a bit of scepticism and actually go to Church and study the Bible. Well at least in my case that's what it took. Some people take less convincing I guess. I took a lot and fought it a lot.
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Fair enough. I too believe that Jesus Christ was a real person. I'm confident there are many passages that are absolutely the real deal.
 
Thumbpicker said:
I said the Apostles wrote the Epistles... That's basically right.

Epistles and their author as included in the New Testament:
Romans - Apostle Paul
  • 1 Corinthians - Apostle Paul
  • 2 Corinthians - Apostle Paul
  • Galatians - Apostle Paul
  • Ephesians - Apostle Paul
  • Philippians - Apostle Paul
  • Colossians - Apostle Paul
  • 1 Thessalonians - Apostle Paul
  • 2 Thessalonians - Apostle Paul
  • 1 Timothy - Apostle Paul
  • 2 Timothy - Apostle Paul
  • Titus - Apostle Paul
  • Philemon - Apostle Paul
  • Hebrews - Apostle Paul
  • James - Apostle James
  • 1 Peter - Apostle Peter
  • 2 Peter - Apostle Peter
  • 1 John - Apostle John
  • 2 John - Apostle John
  • 3 John - Apostle John
  • Jude - Apostle Jude
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Yessir correct . I was addressing Von, not you.
 
MontiCristo said:
Here itnis
2Pet 3:15-16


15 and consider the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you,


16 as also in all his letters, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.
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That's a great verse too.
 
Thumbpicker said:
yeah I know but I was doubting myself. I don't often have to give an account in this type of detail
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Me neither, I’ve honestly never encountered anyone holding to these positions that cannot product any corroborating scripture.

All of Christendom unravels of Mary was sinless. I fear he doesn’t know the destruction of this doctrine
 
acceptance said:
I don't think it is - he's saying God's existence is as obvious as water is to a fish. That's not the case for most of us.
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I think his presence is written into his handiwork (creation) but if you are looking for absolute proof, well, that would nullify faith so you won't find absolute proof.
 
MontiCristo said:
Me neither, I’ve honestly never encountered anyone holding to these positions that cannot product any corroborating scripture.

All of Christendom unravels of Mary was sinless. I fear he doesn’t know the destruction of this doctrine
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There are more differences to it than just Mary - that's just one difference. The more you dig the more differences you find. You know that though.
 
acceptance said:
This is a bigger point then people here want to admit. I mean, we're talking decades of tradition.
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They can't wrap their heads around the idea that the early church was made up of holy traditions. The scriptures came later and the actual completed bible as we know it, much later, like 200 years later.
 
VonBonfire said:
I think his presence is written into his handiwork (creation) but if you are looking for absolute proof, well, that would nullify faith so you won't find absolute proof.
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Bro, you continue to amaze me.
Are you a believer or not?

Gods word says clearly in Romans 1 all know He’s there and you’re contradicting that.
 
VonBonfire said:
They can't wrap their heads around the idea that the early church was made up of holy traditions. The scriptures came later and the actual completed bible as we know it, much later, like 200 years later.
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You don't get to heaven via empty rituals mate.

You don't say 10 hail Mary's and one our father and confess to a priest who waves an incense burner and mumbles some latin at you.

Or light a votive candle and twiddle some rosaries.
 
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