The EG5 Rocks!!!!!

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richedie":327k9qau said:
EWSEthan":327k9qau said:
I guess it depends on how many different levels of gain you need at your feet for the course of a show. For me, module slot 2 is exclusively high gain. Rhythms on channel A, leads on B. I dont need to have different levels of high gain. Then, with module slot 1, I run a BMan which gives me awesome cleans on channel A and great mid-gain grind on channel B.

SL2 has enough gain on channel A. It can do Appetite for Destruction no problem. How much gain do you need?

Rich, you sound like a great candidate for an E2. You need more than 2 modules for what you want to do. Get yourself one of those with an EG3/4 and a COD. Then, you'll have more tones at your feet than you'll know what to do with!

For gain, I need from Led Zep to Ozzy to Tool and Alice in Chains.

Dude, it depends on how close you really need to get to all of those tones. I mean, for Ozzy you want SL2. For AiC its more complicated....SL2 for Facelift, E-Rect for Dirt, and MHG/EG5 for Tripod. And then for Cantrell's solo stuff, probably SL2. For Tool you want either E-Rect or MHG/EG5. But even that isnt going to do it exactly because Adam Jones uses Marshall SuperBass and a Diezel VH4 and nothing from Egnater does those exactly. Plus, even if they did are you going to use a late 70s Les Paul when playing the Tool stuff and a G&L Rampage for the AiC stuff??? You see what Im getting at? Its not just the modules. Its guitars, pickups, etc.

Im not saying dont own all the modules to get different tones. By all means Im not saying that. I own many modules because I like to change it up. But do you need all those tones to be as close as possible while playing live? If so, you'll need an E2. Otherwise, any one of them will do the job and still sound great. Maybe you wont sound exactly like Adam Jones or Jerry Cantrell or Zakk Wylde. Honestly, even if you had their rigs you wouldnt sound like them. You'll still sound like you. And thats A-OK. Pick the modules you like best. 99% of gear is for what we like to hear, not the audience. Like Ive said before, they dont know what you, Cantrell, Jones, or Wylde are playing and they dont care. As long as you play the songs like they like, they're fine. Its up you to figure out what tone YOU like.
 
I don't care about sounding exact...I can get close with most modules I bet...enough that the audience won't care. I just need to get a good clean, mid gain. good rhythm tones and lead. So, I thikn the MOD 50 with a nice boost pedal is my answer. Actually with the MHG I can accomplish most of this and it sounds great....but I am afraid of cut issues as you guys have mentioned.

Maybe I'll pick up an EG3/4, SL2 or EG 5 in the near future.
 
What clean module are you using? If you are using T/D, BMan, or Vx, you should be able to get great mid-gain from channel B of that module. Then, use channel A of MHG for high gain rhythm and channel B with more gain and volume for leads. That really should do it Id think.

Is it just that you dont want to use up a whole channel just for leads?

As for cut, go with your ears. If you and your buddy are playing live with MHG and cutting fine, dont let us tell you otherwise. It didnt work for me, but that doesnt mean it wont necessarily work for you.
 
Dude !!! I know what module you need. It is brand new super special Egnater secret double class AA rectified and I happened to get a dose of it full on at NAMM 08!!!! It is called EG XANAX. And it comes in a small white bottle. The only caveat is that you can ONLY get this module from a special person called a doctor. What you do is you take all your Egnater modules and you stuff them into the amp with vintage nos tubes - then you pop a few EG-XANAX in your mouth and wait 20-30 minutes for your vintage NOS tubes to get nice and hot. Then you crank that shit up to eleven and wail with some class A true bypass boo teek pedals in front and george L cables and then your +4 shit in the effects loop cranked through some vintage 30 blue back celestion speakers - and man oh man - this is THE sound. ;)
 
spakuloid":3ql9z7cp said:
Dude !!! I know what module you need. It is brand new super special Egnater secret double class AA rectified and I happened to get a dose of it full on at NAMM 08!!!! It is called EG XANAX. And it comes in a small white bottle. The only caveat is that you can ONLY get this module from a special person called a doctor. What you do is you take all your Egnater modules and you stuff them into the amp with vintage nos tubes - then you pop a few EG-XANAX in your mouth and wait 20-30 minutes for your vintage NOS tubes to get nice and hot. Then you crank that shit up to eleven and wail with some class A true bypass boo teek pedals in front and george L cables and then your +4 shit in the effects loop cranked through some vintage 30 blue back celestion speakers - and man oh man - this is THE sound. ;)

Yep, thats what I do :yes:

I also recommend tubes by TM; they're not to good to put in your amp but great for pulling.
 
spakuloid":2mtydwys said:
Dude !!! I know what module you need. It is brand new super special Egnater secret double class AA rectified and I happened to get a dose of it full on at NAMM 08!!!! It is called EG XANAX. And it comes in a small white bottle. The only caveat is that you can ONLY get this module from a special person called a doctor. What you do is you take all your Egnater modules and you stuff them into the amp with vintage nos tubes - then you pop a few EG-XANAX in your mouth and wait 20-30 minutes for your vintage NOS tubes to get nice and hot. Then you crank that shit up to eleven and wail with some class A true bypass boo teek pedals in front and george L cables and then your +4 shit in the effects loop cranked through some vintage 30 blue back celestion speakers - and man oh man - this is THE sound. ;)


ouch!

that was a little harsh eh? :D
 
EWSEthan":32dpjprz said:
What clean module are you using? If you are using T/D, BMan, or Vx, you should be able to get great mid-gain from channel B of that module. Then, use channel A of MHG for high gain rhythm and channel B with more gain and volume for leads. That really should do it Id think.

Is it just that you dont want to use up a whole channel just for leads?

As for cut, go with your ears. If you and your buddy are playing live with MHG and cutting fine, dont let us tell you otherwise. It didnt work for me, but that doesnt mean it wont necessarily work for you.

Thanks Matt! I have the BMan and MHG and your description is exactly how I use the amp! I love it but just get scared with all the talk of not cutting. Again, I used it live once and it went well. I'll wait till I have a problem before I make a move. Hehehe...

I just want more modules and more tones!!!!!!! LOL! I'll deal with the boost if I need it....LOL.

Thanks bro.
 
Have you guys tried lowering the gain on the EG5 channel A?? It's a killer neck pickup tone. Run it between 9:00 and 10:00 and it rocks.......great module.
 
richedie":2aa25bcs said:
EWSEthan":2aa25bcs said:
this looks nice but I do not necessarily need a gain boost...just volume and some mids. This one keeps coming up though.

one more suggestion - have you considered a graphic eq pedal? Full eq control and volume boost and no gain
 
hank":1xs1dmp5 said:
richedie":1xs1dmp5 said:
EWSEthan":1xs1dmp5 said:
this looks nice but I do not necessarily need a gain boost...just volume and some mids. This one keeps coming up though.

one more suggestion - have you considered a graphic eq pedal? Full eq control and volume boost and no gain

I use my delay in the parallel loop, so I couldn't use the EQ in the loop.

I am thinking about the Keely Katana or the Xotic Boost.
 
Hmm...am I being an ass if I ask how a MHG or EG5 might compare to the Randall Mr Scary...it sounds like they are shooting for the same thing and probably sound very similar. Anyone ever compare?

I have a used M4 on the way..might not have bothered if I'd read about the E2 first but hey..love and learn ;)
 
richedie":1zyd98j3 said:
EWSEthan":1zyd98j3 said:
What clean module are you using? If you are using T/D, BMan, or Vx, you should be able to get great mid-gain from channel B of that module. Then, use channel A of MHG for high gain rhythm and channel B with more gain and volume for leads. That really should do it Id think.

Is it just that you dont want to use up a whole channel just for leads?

As for cut, go with your ears. If you and your buddy are playing live with MHG and cutting fine, dont let us tell you otherwise. It didnt work for me, but that doesnt mean it wont necessarily work for you.

Thanks Matt! I have the BMan and MHG and your description is exactly how I use the amp! I love it but just get scared with all the talk of not cutting. Again, I used it live once and it went well. I'll wait till I have a problem before I make a move. Hehehe...

I just want more modules and more tones!!!!!!! LOL! I'll deal with the boost if I need it....LOL.

Thanks bro.

It sounds like you suffer from the same thing I suffer from. The "Spend too much time on forums and not enough time ROCKING" syndrome. You can sit here and get all worked about the things other people say on the internet, or you can go out and use those ears! It already sounds like you said the MHG sounds sick, and if no one had ever breathed a word of it having issues cutting through then this wouldnt be an issue correct? The biggest thing ive learned is the you have to use your ears and not take so seriously the different opinions that other people with very different needs have. There are people out there that will have you believe the Vintage 30's will always make you sound like you're playing through a half-cocked wah and others that all Mesa amps are muddy. Someone you plays Scorpions or Lynch could easily think that the MHG dosent cut through and sounds "muddy" just because they would be used to or prefer more high mid and treble oriented distortion. I personally prefer warmer tones, which is why I dont like the EG5 as much as something like the MHG or COD. So strap on that guitar and feel blessed that you have one of the greatest amps in the world! :rock:
 
JKD":e461bbdv said:
Hmm...am I being an ass if I ask how a MHG or EG5 might compare to the Randall Mr Scary...it sounds like they are shooting for the same thing and probably sound very similar. Anyone ever compare?

I have a used M4 on the way..might not have bothered if I'd read about the E2 first but hey..love and learn ;)
Hey JKD,I've never heard a MR Scary module,But I had the MHG and now I have the EG5 any clips of the Mr scary anywhere,is it a highgain mod?Ya the E2 is looking like an insane tool for any rig!These guys really suck on my wallet!LOL :D
 
jmgman69":1pga217a said:
JKD":1pga217a said:
Hmm...am I being an ass if I ask how a MHG or EG5 might compare to the Randall Mr Scary...it sounds like they are shooting for the same thing and probably sound very similar. Anyone ever compare?

I have a used M4 on the way..might not have bothered if I'd read about the E2 first but hey..love and learn ;)
Hey JKD,I've never heard a MR Scary module,But I had the MHG and now I have the EG5 any clips of the Mr scary anywhere,is it a highgain mod?Ya the E2 is looking like an insane tool for any rig!These guys really suck on my wallet!LOL :D

Here's the only one I found...there's a video someone posted but I can't find it right now:



Obvious choice of songs :D
 
JKD":7nw84srl said:
jmgman69":7nw84srl said:
JKD":7nw84srl said:
Hmm...am I being an ass if I ask how a MHG or EG5 might compare to the Randall Mr Scary...it sounds like they are shooting for the same thing and probably sound very similar. Anyone ever compare?

I have a used M4 on the way..might not have bothered if I'd read about the E2 first but hey..love and learn ;)
Hey JKD,I've never heard a MR Scary module,But I had the MHG and now I have the EG5 any clips of the Mr scary anywhere,is it a highgain mod?Ya the E2 is looking like an insane tool for any rig!These guys really suck on my wallet!LOL :D

Here's the only one I found...there's a video someone posted but I can't find it right now:



Obvious choice of songs :D
Cool sounding but sounds more like an SL2 than the EG5.I can't even get the gain past 12:00
 
jmgman69":1aquf0xo said:
JKD":1aquf0xo said:
JKD":1aquf0xo said:
Hmm...am I being an ass if I ask how a MHG or EG5 might compare to the Randall Mr Scary...it sounds like they are shooting for the same thing and probably sound very similar. Anyone ever compare?

I have a used M4 on the way..might not have bothered if I'd read about the E2 first but hey..love and learn ;)


Here's the only one I found...there's a video someone posted but I can't find it right now:



Obvious choice of songs :D
Cool sounding but sounds more like an SL2 than the EG5.I can't even get the gain past 12:00

Heh..I always figured the SL2 was sort of like the SL+ in randall terms....My Mr Scary doesn't sound like my SL+...but it certainly cops a Marshall flavor...looking forward to getting my M4 :D
 
Yeah, Thats surprising I would've thought that the Scary was similar to EG5 as well ,

the Scary sounds very tight ,and from what ive read the SL2 not so tight, maybe im wrong but I thought like JKD SL2 was closet in relation to SL+
 
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