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I'm quite certain that everyone appreciates the perspectives of the world renowned experts at CBS Radio Canada...But I'll just go ahead and keep letting people here know, pragmatically speaking what the first responders that are actually involved in the situation are saying. Like say...I don't know...The LA Fire Chief?

"Did they fail you? ...Yes"

Feel fee to dispute what she is saying about the budget cuts at the local and state level "drastically impacting" the fire department's ability to fight this fire. I'm sure an article can be dug up on global warming that can correct her direct knowledge of what happened.

 
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I'm quite certain that everyone appreciates the perspectives of the world renowned experts at CBS Radio Canada...But I'll just go ahead and keep letting people here know, pragmatically speaking what the first responders that are actually involved in the situation are saying. Like say...I don't know...The LA Fire Chief?

"Did they fail you? ...Yes"

Feel fee to dispute what she is saying about the budget cuts at the local and state level "drastically impacting" the fire department's ability to fight this fire. I'm sure an article can be dug up on global warming that can correct her direct knowledge of what happened.


CBC actually. Big difference.
 
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

"Don't you just hate it when climate change causes decisions like hiring a fire chief based on pronouns, giving away fire equipment to Ukraine, mis-managing forests, tearing down dams, refusing to fill existing water reservoirs, cancelling fire insurance, and laying off fire fighters for refusing an experimental vaccination? "
Are you sure about all this? It actually may have all been unavoidable because of man made climate change. Well, let's ask the real experts...See what they say:

"Many say that the catastrophic fires ravaging Los Angeles weren’t the fault of Governor Gavin Newsom and LA Mayor Karen Bass. Fires are inevitable in Los Angeles, and the water ran out because no water system could withstand that many fires simultaneously, they add.But LA firefighters themselves disagree.

They say the reason they arrived too late to stop the fires from becoming catastrophic was because of severe budget cuts. The Fire Department did not pre-deploy fire engines to strategic locations, and helicopters arrived half an hour too late to put out the Palisades.“That [Santa Ynez] reservoir being closed did not allow helicopters to drop and suck water up from five minutes away,” a new firefighter whistleblower, the third who has come forward, told me. “Instead, they had to fly 10 to 15 minutes away to go get water somewhere else.”The problem is that the LA Fire Department is one of the most severely understaffed of America’s 10 largest cities. It has less than a single firefighter per 1,000 residents compared to Chicago, Dallas, and Houston, which have twice as many.“ In 1960, our city population was 2.5 million, and we had 112 fire stations. In 2020, our city population was 3.9 million, and we had 106 stations,” a representative of LA’s firefighters ’ union testified last month. “That's 1.4 million more people and six fewer fire stations.”This undermines the Department’s ability to respond to emergencies.

“In 2020, the average emergency response time was seven minutes and 53 seconds, nearly double the NFPA recommendation.”Part of the problem is that the number of homeless fires in LA doubled between 2020 and 2023 to an astonishing 38 per day. They start dangerous fires in many ways, including by breaking through the sidewalk into the city’s electrical system, which can result in explosions and death.Still, many say, it is wrong to blame homelessness for LA’s fires. They are victims of trauma and poverty.But the research is unequivocal. Over half of all fires that the LA Fire Department responds to are set by a homeless person.

"There were two huge explosions, and when I looked out my apartment window, I saw plumes of black smoke," a resident told NBC-Los Angeles. "People are literally dying in the streets, in tents burning down around them.”And the evidence is clear: leaving homeless people on the street makes them three times more likely to die than people required to come inside to sleep in shelters.The third firefighter whistleblower says the firefighters are being put in danger by budget cuts. “Even last week,” the person said, “I wanted to work and I was told, ‘Sorry dude, we don't have a seat for you to fill because there's not enough apparatuses,’” meaning fire engines or other equipment.One hundred fire engines and other apparatus are currently out of service because the city cut the Fire Department’s budget, and it couldn’t afford to hire mechanics to fix equipment.“We have a crack about halfway down our water tank. Half of our [engines and other] apparatuses are broken.

They were sending rookies, new probationary firefighters, out to the field last year with no department-required brush jackets.”The firefighters lack life-saving equipment. “We were running out of electrodes to do EKGs,” the person said. “We've been running out of gloves. We've been running out of drugs, you name it. There's been ambulances that have been having to steal stuff or borrow stuff from the hospitals just to stay available.”At the meeting last month, the president of the city’s firefighters union warned, “If we cut one position, if we close one station… the residents of Los Angeles are going to pay the ultimate sacrifice, and someone will die.”

All this and yet Los Angeles is one of the richest cities in the world. Eighty-four of America’s richest 400 people live in California, and LA is home to 26 billionaires who collectively possess a net worth of approximately $185 billion.“It kills us when we see holes in the system,” said the whistleblower, “and we aren’t able to do the job we expect of ourselves, and if we had the appropriate resources and staffing, I don’t think any of the fires were inevitable. I know for a fact it would not be what it is. We saw my particular fire engine in maintenance for a year and a half.”Some politicians are demanding reform.  ”There are large swaths of the city with no emergency response resources available,” said Councilmember Traci Park, who urged more funding for firefighting last year. “ I think that people are rightly upset, not only that this happened, but there is a sense that we as local leaders needed to do more for them. I feel like I let them down, and I've been screaming about it from the day I came in.”As such, the problem is not poverty, it is severe mismanagement and bad governance.

Not only is the city’s mismanagement to blame for LA’s disastrous response to the fire, but it’s also responsible for the city’s ongoing homelessness disaster.Why is that? Part of the reason is the city’s Diversity, Equity, Inclusion (DEI) programs. “The city will only purchase from vendors that support DEI,” said the firefighter. “So we'll go with a vendor that we have to pay twice as much, or the shipment may take twice as long, in order for it to be a DEI vendor rather than the vendor who has it at half the price and can get it to us tomorrow.”The whistleblower said that DEI programs put firefighters and the public in danger. “I personally witnessed in my own drill tower them making and passing women just to get their [female quota] numbers even though they didn't have to meet all the criteria the men did....”
 
Seems like incompetent leadership knows no borders. Interesting to hear how leftist/socialist policies and ideals are working in Canada. It always ends up the same, a wealth transfer from the working class to the elite.

 
“This has been the canary in the climate coalmine, and it’s now hitting households’ pocketbooks,” said Ben Keys, an economist at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School and co-author of the research. “You can deny climate change for whatever motivations you have but when insurance is going up because you live in a risky area, that’s hard to deny.”

Keys said there is a “tight correlation” between premium rises and counties deemed most at risk from a metric drawn from past disasters combined with modeling of future events exacerbated by the climate crisis.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2024/dec/05/climate-crisis-insurance-premiums
 
Whether it’s flooding, hurricanes, tornadoes or wildfire, the insurance industry in the U.S. has been running catastrophe models which are now being informed by climate-change data. These companies do not subscribe to conspiracy theories and have no hidden agenda. They are simply using scientific facts to help them make decisions so that their businesses remain viable. The models they are using predict increasing liability, particularly in areas prone to extreme weather events. The higher costs of building and home repairs are also intensifying those losses.

Unsurprisingly, the growing risk borne by insurers is now impacting those purchasing insurance. S&P Global reports that the average home insurance premiums rose a stunning 43 per cent in Florida, and similarly in California, between January 2018 and December 2023. Those increases were much higher than the rate of inflation over the same period. In response to these increasing liabilities, some large insurance companies in several US states have reduced or completely ended coverage in those regions seeing more frequent, widespread and intense natural disasters associated with climate change.
 
at least Oprah's houses in Hawaii and California are ok.

/s

I'm guessing many won't be able to rebuild (not only for the costs, but with the insurance limits or no insurance, large number of houses destroyed, building materials and builders are going to be in high demand, expensive, and too few), and some may be forced to sell their land at significant discount or loss to wealthier buyers.

I haven't checked in awhile, but I do recall a few stories about the areas hit in NC by the hurricane last year include many areas with significant rare earth deposits.

Seems there's an effort to move the little people from high value areas in Hawaii, LA, NC,...
 
Right-wing commentators have blamed the devastating Southern California wildfires on Los Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crowley, claiming that she has prioritized implementing pro-diversity initiatives over her duties.

Crowley, who is a lesbian, has borne the brunt of the right-wing’s outrage despite the fact there’s no evidence that she’s either unqualified for her job (she was in the top 50 of 16,000 applicants when she passed her firefighter exam) or that the department’s diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI) initiatives took money away from firefighting efforts.

Experts believe that the wildfires currently ravaging Southern California are caused by climate change, which has altered wind and rain patterns in the region, and, when combined with a lack of rainfall, hot Santa Ana winds that have dehydrated vegetation, and a series of extended droughts that have plagued California in recent years, creates fires that are more severe and harder to contain.

Additionally, the Los Angeles infrastructure contains an abundance of flammable materials, including low-hanging power cables and wooden telephone poles, that make perfect fuel for a fire. Due to these conditions, any small spark can lead to an out-of-control fire.

Still, according to conservative news outlets, the wildfires are an example of “death by DEI,” in which either allegedly unqualified individuals are promoted to positions where they are ineffective in stopping natural disasters or preventable crimes, or where people in positions of power have prioritized diversifying their workforce over promoting people on “merit.”

As noted by journalist Emery Winter of the fact-checking website VERIFY, claims that local officials failed to ensure that the city’s water tanks and fire hydrants were sufficiently full of water are false. Rather, according to local officials, the hydrants used by firefighters ran out of water because of “high water demand that is outpacing the speed at which water service officials can replenish the tanks.”

Jeffrey Mount, a senior fellow at the PPIC Water Policy Center, told VERIFY that there isn’t a shortage of water in the area’s reservoirs. Additionally, the California Department of Water Resources website shows that the state’s major reservoirs are at or above their historic levels.

Mike Beasley, the head of the board of Firefighters United for Safety Ethics and Ecology, told National Public Radio that blaming DEI for the current difficulties extinguishing wildfires has “only slightly more credibility than the Jewish space laser theories.”


“There is no number of people that will stop all the fires in the middle of a hot, dry season with the climate-charged fuel aridity. There just isn’t,” Beasley said. “With these Santa Ana winds happening, it’s just about getting people out of the way. It’s not really about putting the fire out until the winds calm down.”

He added that right-wingers’ accusations of DEI are nothing more than political pandering to their ideological allies.

“No fire agency is going to sacrifice training and fundamental fire control and fundamental operations at the expense of DEI training,” he said.
 
Any natural disaster today is conveniently assigned to climate change by the left. One more reason the public rejected them in the last election. Extremism. The same leaders and ultra wealthy who say the oceans are rising have luxury waterfront real estate. Gates, Obama, and all those other Hampton's and Martha's Vineyard yuks. It's all obvious BS. Lies from the left and from RINO's.
 
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Any natural disaster today is conveniently assigned to climate change by the left. One more reason the public rejected them in the last election. Extremism. The same leaders and ultra wealthy who say the oceans are rising have luxury waterfront real estate. Gates, Obama, and all those other Hampton's and Martha's Vineyard yuks. It's all obvious BS. Lies from the left and from RINO's.

Californians voted for those in charge. This is a result of their voting for decades.

You can't stop the wind, you can't prevent the fires but there are things that could have been done lessen the impact, have greater control, provide fire breaks, have water in the system, etc.

Blaming climate change is great if you want to avoid any accountability and responsibility for those elected and hired to do their jobs. Ineptitude, hubris, incompetence, fecklessness all on display
 
This whole situation has shown that around half of people don't know how fire works in general.

The amount of photos of fire aftermaths where one side of the street is devastated and the other side looks fine is not uncommon and has been talked about since humans started writing about fires.

The wind changes and all of a sudden the fire changes direction like a living thing. Talk to people who have fought wildfires, they'll tell you they seem to have a mind of their own.

You can even see this is on the side of a hill. Fires have trouble burning downhill sometimes because they create their own updrafts pulling air from downhill slowing progress.

Posting about energy beams from the 'do your own research' insanity dark web is embarrassing.
 
Californians voted for those in charge. This is a result of their voting for decades.

You can't stop the wind, you can't prevent the fires but there are things that could have been done lessen the impact, have greater control, provide fire breaks, have water in the system, etc.

Blaming climate change is great if you want to avoid any accountability and responsibility for those elected and hired to do their jobs. Ineptitude, hubris, incompetence, fecklessness all on display

Exactly. Blaming climate change highlights the massive failure of leadership even more. Climate change has been one of their top talking points for the longest time; ever since Al Gore invented the internet. This means California's leadership 100% knew about the impact that climate change would have and still took no extra measures to prevent and/or mitigate this disaster.
 
Exactly. Blaming climate change highlights the massive failure of leadership even more. Climate change has been one of their top talking points for the longest time; ever since Al Gore invented the internet. This means California's leadership 100% knew about the impact that climate change would have and still took no extra measures to prevent and/or mitigate this disaster.
So your perspective is "climate change is fake but you should have done more about it."
 
This whole situation has shown that around half of people don't know how fire works in general.

The amount of photos of fire aftermaths where one side of the street is devastated and the other side looks fine is not uncommon and has been talked about since humans started writing about fires.

The wind changes and all of a sudden the fire changes direction like a living thing. Talk to people who have fought wildfires, they'll tell you they seem to have a mind of their own.

You can even see this is on the side of a hill. Fires have trouble burning downhill sometimes because they create their own updrafts pulling air from downhill slowing progress.

Posting about energy beams from the 'do your own research' insanity dark web is embarrassing.
You mean to tell me the fire just burned all the cars but didn’t touch any of the trees and foliage on the left or the right???
 
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