my original question was: What's comparable to a CCM?
I owned a Cobra as well as 3 Cameron modded amps. Never had or heard a CCV in person or a Cornford.prplhz":3tahn94m said:You guys need to stop being pussies and just get Cobras.
So does the Cobra even belong in this thread at all or no?
Echodrive":1wyc1npo said:I'm kind of digging the sound of my old stock 81 JCM800 w/ a "Timmy" pedal!
RoidRage":3o3kp5wy said:Echodrive":3o3kp5wy said:I'm kind of digging the sound of my old stock 81 JCM800 w/ a "Timmy" pedal!
You know when it's all said and done... I bet you and I like a similar tone... I heard you mention "Even Order Harmonics" That is what I love also... Even with my Tube Hi-Fi Amp.
Even Order Harmonics, and Distortion is Warm, and Rich. Odd Order is Harsh and Brittle. This is why I favor my Herbert the least of my Amps... It has some odd order, and is
Slightly Harsh.
I wonder if you would like my Vintage 79' Marshall JMP Jose with Mercury Magnetics Trannies?
What do you think of this?
RR
Echodrive":2zgdafr5 said:RoidRage":2zgdafr5 said:Echodrive":2zgdafr5 said:I'm kind of digging the sound of my old stock 81 JCM800 w/ a "Timmy" pedal!
You know when it's all said and done... I bet you and I like a similar tone... I heard you mention "Even Order Harmonics" That is what I love also... Even with my Tube Hi-Fi Amp.
Even Order Harmonics, and Distortion is Warm, and Rich. Odd Order is Harsh and Brittle. This is why I favor my Herbert the least of my Amps... It has some odd order, and is
Slightly Harsh.
I wonder if you would like my Vintage 79' Marshall JMP Jose with Mercury Magnetics Trannies?
What do you think of this?
RR
Yes! Hold-on to that one for sure! I'd use that for playing Michael Schenker - Randy Rhoads numbers especially.
I've cut way back on the amount of gain I'm using these days. At some point I went back to my earlier influences. Why, I don't know? In the 80's I was so into Randy's playing man! It was so over-the-top compared to everything else at the time. After that came an avalanche of copycat players - but none of them "hit the mark" like Randy.
I agree with with you on the Diezel thing. I went to Steve Henderlong's (39 Stripes) place to pick up a guitar. He had a V4 I think it was? He asked me to play out of it, just to see what I though of it? I told him it had a certain harshness to it. I didn't want to "rag" his amp - but I recognized it as odd-order harmonics creeping through. We plugged-in 2 other cabs, but the harshness remained. He goes through a ton of gear man! His two "main-stay" amps are his Carol-Ann 100 watt OD2, and a Cornford MKII. He's also using a VHT preamp I think? I had never heard a Cornford until he let me hear the pre-production release of "Mustard Seed" from their latest album. I said; "Shit! What are you using man? That's a great tone!" He said it was a Cornford MKII.
That's a great sounding Marshall you have there. Anyone who knows how to play would be proud to play out of that amp IMO. George Lynch would love the shit out of that!
RoidRage":2a34zw30 said:Echodrive":2a34zw30 said:RoidRage":2a34zw30 said:Echodrive":2a34zw30 said:I'm kind of digging the sound of my old stock 81 JCM800 w/ a "Timmy" pedal!
You know when it's all said and done... I bet you and I like a similar tone... I heard you mention "Even Order Harmonics" That is what I love also... Even with my Tube Hi-Fi Amp.
Even Order Harmonics, and Distortion is Warm, and Rich. Odd Order is Harsh and Brittle. This is why I favor my Herbert the least of my Amps... It has some odd order, and is
Slightly Harsh.
I wonder if you would like my Vintage 79' Marshall JMP Jose with Mercury Magnetics Trannies?
What do you think of this?
RR
Yes! Hold-on to that one for sure! I'd use that for playing Michael Schenker - Randy Rhoads numbers especially.
I've cut way back on the amount of gain I'm using these days. At some point I went back to my earlier influences. Why, I don't know? In the 80's I was so into Randy's playing man! It was so over-the-top compared to everything else at the time. After that came an avalanche of copycat players - but none of them "hit the mark" like Randy.
I agree with with you on the Diezel thing. I went to Steve Henderlong's (39 Stripes) place to pick up a guitar. He had a V4 I think it was? He asked me to play out of it, just to see what I though of it? I told him it had a certain harshness to it. I didn't want to "rag" his amp - but I recognized it as odd-order harmonics creeping through. We plugged-in 2 other cabs, but the harshness remained. He goes through a ton of gear man! His two "main-stay" amps are his Carol-Ann 100 watt OD2, and a Cornford MKII. He's also using a VHT preamp I think? I had never heard a Cornford until he let me hear the pre-production release of "Mustard Seed" from their latest album. I said; "Shit! What are you using man? That's a great tone!" He said it was a Cornford MKII.
That's a great sounding Marshall you have there. Anyone who knows how to play would be proud to play out of that amp IMO. George Lynch would love the shit out of that!
Thanks...
Ok I'm starting to figure you out
And I agree you take the Global knob, and tilt it towards a little brighter, and this thing sounds Like MSG for sure, think Armed And Ready!
Thing is... The Cameron is like this but Super Charged with Over the top Gain, Saturation. What I mean by Like is... The HERBERT has Gain out the Wazzoo... But The CCV is ***ORGANIC*** Even Order while the Herbie sounds more ??? I don't want to say Fake... But sounds more Transistor?? Or Electric maybe?
The CCV takes that Organic Vibe, and and Adds... Bottom End tight Punch... With just the right amount of Swirling Grind. A Visceral FEEL IT type of sound that appeals to your Primordial senses...
See I wish you could hear my CCV set up the way I like with my Cab, Speakers, Tubes, And Bias! I think you would have a new favorite! I really do!
Roid
Someone mentioned that the MKII didn't have that tight sound, and that is correct. The MKII is not as focused as the Marshall's, and a lot of that has to do with the output section I think. I guess you're correct when you say that the Cornford isn't comparable to the Cameron stuff. The Cornford is aggressive in a "When The Levy Breaks" sort of way; where the Marshall is aggressive in a "No More Tears" sort of way. It's closer to the sound of the non-MV "Plexi" Marshall's without the bright cap vs the MV Marshall's I think. It's really important to switch-over to EL34's when playing an MKII IMO. That's what brings out the British gain tones! People say the same thing about the SLO100, and that's true... But the MKII is WAY less forgiving IMO. I also use a MESA Mark IIC+. Now that amp is what I use for over the top saturation! The problem with the MESA is that it's biased cold! No adjustable trim... 
I'm fixing to send it to Rick Hamel at SIB to do some modding, and to install a bias trim. I'd like to run El34's, but that may not sound too good in MESA? Maybe convert it to Simul-Class?
racerevlon":1tod9b8b said:
Oh - and a Vox AC30.
Mailman1971":23r0mrww said:You still have that Marshall Tony? Ever find a buyer for the Diezel yet?
Man you have the DREAM set up!
Rock on Brother.....
Dan
Awesome Josh!jcj":2rk5oiox said:Herbert incoming here, too
Mailman1971":2nhfxqqt said:Tony,
I see in your rack you have the 482I.....
do you run it with your amps?
Guys seem to hate it here......but I love it!